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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ph8sm5622227pbc.8.2015.11.10.11.47.46 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:47:46 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.attlocal.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id A95061053F518; Tue, 10 Nov 2015 11:47:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Jo=C3=A3o_T=C3=A1vo?= =?utf-8?Q?ra=22's?= message of "Tue, 10 Nov 2015 19:32:47 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: joaotavora@gmail.com (=?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?=), David Kastrup , Juanma Barranquero , Emacs developers , Oleh Krehel , Dmitry Gutov X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193948 Archived-At: >>>>> Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > Here's a very simple example: here's a way to configure markdown-mode > (package-install 'markdown-mode) > (with-eval-after-load 'markdown-mode > (modify-syntax-entry ?` "\"" markdown-mode-syntax-table)) > How would use-package handle this simple example?=20 To match those semantics, you'd use: (use-package markdown-mode :ensure t :config (modify-syntax-entry ?` "\"" markdown-mode-syntax-table)) > I don't think you understood. I don't mean bugs in `use-package', I mean = bug > reports in my extensions that are reported in terms of `use-package'. Sho= uld > I not handle those bugs? Ah. Does it help that you can macro-expand use-package forms, so that you s= ee what the underlying Emacs Lisp calls? I try hard to make the expanded code "look like what you'd write", as much as possible. > I don't understand. It's a "new way", at least for me. I meant that between customize and Emacs Lisp, there nothing in between for users of core Emacs right now. Beyond Emacs, there do exist several other ways. John