From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Could the new gud changes move to a branch? Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:14:25 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081494975 5508 80.91.224.253 (9 Apr 2004 07:16:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 07:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 09 09:16:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BBqFD-0007sg-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:16:07 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BBqFD-0008WA-00 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 09:16:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBqEj-0008Fu-Iv for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:15:37 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BBqE8-0008DD-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:15:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BBqDb-0007yR-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [204.251.10.81] (helo=iris1.directnic.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BBqDa-0007xJ-0C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 03:14:26 -0400 Original-Received: by iris1.directnic.com (iris/0.141:492879); 9 Apr 2004 07:14:13 +0000 Original-Received: from adsl-68-124-206-162.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (EHLO Majnun.local) (68.124.206.162) by pop.directnic.com (iris/0.141:492879/relay) with ESMTP for ; 9 Apr 2004 07:14:23 +0000 X-Envelope-Sender: johnw@gnu.org X-Envelope-Recipient: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by Majnun.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 128FB1F5042; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 00:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21392 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21392 I appreciate whoever is trying to make gud smarter, but unfortunately is stumbling over its own feet far too often. It has nearly rendered debugging from within Emacs impossible. It is much slower to get started. It creates three windows, but expects a certain arrangement, so that every once in a while when I hit my breakpoint I am left with only the source window -- and must hit C-x C-b to get back to the *gud* window. I really like the new disassembly view, but at one point I got myself into a situation where I simply could not switch my buffer away from it. It seemed to take over my minibuffer or something, and I had to kill the process and restart it. And lastly it seems that if the input/output window goes away (from hitting C-x 1), and then I switch to the *gud* window and hit "up" or "down", that it redisplays my frame so that only the source window and the input/output window are displayed. I have to keep switching to the *gud* buffer. Anyway, it has felt very complicated, and I used to be such a fan of debugging with gdb under Emacs. So could we go back to the old, simple way until things settle down and the new code is better tested by the author? I think I will start using 21.3 for my debugging. John