From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Xu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Info-mode and ido Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:40:03 +0900 Organization: the Church of Emacs Message-ID: References: <002601c891e8$8afa2a70$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <000301c89285$188dc8f0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <003f01c892ce$abd5e860$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206931320 5044 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2008 02:42:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:42:00 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 31 04:42:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg9yd-0007Ow-En for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:42:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg9y1-0001G6-FE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:41:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg9wr-0000uu-UU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg9wr-0000uT-4Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:40:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg9wq-0000uL-UT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:40:36 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jg9wq-0000dD-Lu for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:40:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jg9wi-0006ou-EZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:40:28 +0000 Original-Received: from gw.community-engine.co.jp ([210.255.51.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:40:28 +0000 Original-Received: from william.xwl by gw.community-engine.co.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:40:28 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.community-engine.co.jp User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:WwcANPpD9xvG7htUyO+ksXMm94s= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52873 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> I especially love ido's "reduce matchings while typing" feature. > > Icicles does the same thing: it incrementally updates the completion matches > (candidates) while you type. It can use ordinary prefix matching, regexp > matching, fuzzy matching, or scatter matching (same as ido's "flex" matching). > In all cases, the set of candidates is updated incrementally, while you edit > your input. This always happens (unless you toggle it off). Ah, i realize it, it's nice. All the magic happens when the *Completions* buffer is opened. > But you don't see the candidates in the minibuffer, as you do in ido. Icicles is > designed to work well even with very large candidate sets - the minibuffer is > too small for that. Ido also works well with large candidates, for example, opening some file under /usr/share: `C-x C-f /usr/share'. I usually don't look-first-then-type, instead, just keep typing until I get what I want(since I know what I'm going to open), so the minibuffer isn't an issue for me. > Candidates are available in *Completions*, if you want to > see them. By default, *Completions* is shown only on demand (hit TAB or S-TAB), > but you can optionally have it appear as soon as Emacs starts reading your > input. So this is the major UI difference between Icicles and Ido. One of the drawbacks of open a separate *Completions* buffer is kind of distraction, with window creation and destruction. > You might like Icicles or you might not, but don't expect it to be the same as > either vanilla Emacs or ido. I think I'm hopelessly addicted to ido at present. -- William http://williamxu.net9.org