From: Alex Schroeder <alex@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 20:13:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2vc1159ai.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m24n8ljki9.fsf@mac.com
This thread seems appropriate to repost the following important message.
From: PerAbrahamsen
Newsgroups: news:comp.emacs, news:alt.religion.emacs
Subject: Re: what's so fun about emacs?
Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:03:44 +0100
Organization: The ChurchOfEmacs
User-Agent: Gnus/5.0804 (Gnus v5.8.4) Emacs/20.4
[...]
Emacs has so much power that nobody will ever master it
completely. You can always be a stronger user with Emacs. With a
"simple" editor like pico or notepad, you will quickly master it
completely, which means that it will not allow you to grow
further. Sure, it will take a new user a little longer to be
productive with Emacs than Pico, but by starting with Emacs he will
have an editor that will grow with him for the rest of his life.
[...]
20 MB is 1 cent worth of disc space. For that 1 cent, you get the
most powerful text editor in the world, an IDE that supports more
programming languages "out of the box" than all other IDEs in the world
combined, the most feature-rich News and Mail reader ever, a web
browser, a calendar that knows more cultures than you have heard of,
and your own personal psychotherapist. If you think 1 cent is too
much for a text editor that has been specially optimized for every
text processing need in your remaining life, you ought to reevaluate
your value system.
[...]
What you call "Windows" is just one of many window systems that has
come in and out of fashion during the lifetime of Emacs. Emacs (in one
version or another) has supported most of them,
SunView, NeWS, X10, X11 (Open Look, Athena, Motif), PM,
Win32, Mac. Emacs has provided a sound foundation that has allowed
programmers to be productive with all these, and will also provide a
foundation for whatever window system will be hot tomorrow.
What Emacs doesn't do is to give up that foundation in order to follow
the latest trend. Instead, it incorporates what is good and
compensates for the rest. This -- of course -- will make Emacs feel
"old" for the followers of hype, but the wise will see its intrinsic
power and lasting value.
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2013-08-26 22:43 Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2013-08-27 0:05 ` Perry Smith
2013-08-27 0:25 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
2013-08-27 9:07 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-08-27 23:52 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-08-28 3:03 ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2013-08-29 0:39 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-08-28 20:19 ` Ken Goldman
2013-08-29 0:25 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-08-28 20:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-03 19:25 ` Ken Goldman
[not found] ` <mailman.3330.1380828355.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-03 19:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 21:09 ` W. Greenhouse
[not found] ` <mailman.907.1377724222.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-28 21:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 2:04 ` Kevin Montuori
[not found] ` <mailman.935.1377741861.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-29 2:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 3:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 7:59 ` W. Greenhouse
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2013-08-29 20:53 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 21:05 ` Drew Adams
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2013-08-29 21:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 23:37 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.996.1377819467.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-08-30 0:25 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-29 22:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-30 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-30 1:32 ` MBR
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2013-08-30 2:26 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-30 11:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-08-30 12:21 ` Ludwig, Mark
2013-08-30 13:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-29 23:50 ` Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
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2013-08-30 0:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-30 1:23 ` Jorge
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2013-08-30 2:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-30 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-08-30 16:24 ` Jorge
2013-10-04 11:30 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-10-04 21:59 ` Jude DaShiell
2013-10-04 23:16 ` Bob Proulx
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2013-10-04 23:35 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-06 12:07 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-06 21:50 ` Evans Winner
2013-10-09 19:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-10 4:27 ` Teemu Likonen
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2013-10-10 5:25 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-10 8:24 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-10 22:18 ` Bob Proulx
2013-10-11 10:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-10 10:36 ` Phillip Lord
2013-10-10 11:00 ` Rainer M Krug
2013-10-10 15:16 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-10-11 11:06 ` Phillip Lord
2013-10-12 22:01 ` Christopher Ritsen
2013-10-14 11:04 ` Phillip Lord
2013-10-14 16:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14 19:25 ` Christopher Ritsen
2013-10-15 11:30 ` Phillip Lord
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2013-10-15 17:56 ` Emanuel Berg
[not found] ` <mailman.3989.1381778782.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-14 21:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-15 6:27 ` Bob Proulx
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2013-10-15 17:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-16 4:56 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-17 1:45 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-10-13 2:36 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-10 13:04 ` Carson Chittom
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2013-10-10 20:44 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-10-10 20:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-11 10:56 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-10-11 19:06 ` Bob Proulx
2013-10-12 7:48 ` Andreas Röhler
[not found] ` <mailman.3875.1381563966.10748.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-10-12 20:24 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-10 23:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-11 0:05 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-11 5:58 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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2013-10-11 17:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-09 19:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-10 2:28 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-09 21:30 ` Tom Davey
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2013-10-09 21:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-10 16:24 ` henry atting
2013-10-11 5:19 ` Eric Abrahamsen
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2013-10-04 17:45 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-04 19:28 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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2013-10-04 20:18 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-08 11:36 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-09 19:43 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-10-13 14:47 ` Eric Brown
2013-10-13 15:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-13 17:52 ` Eric Brown
2013-10-13 18:13 ` Alex Schroeder [this message]
2013-10-13 19:23 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-08-27 1:44 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-27 23:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 0:20 ` Marko Vojinovic
2013-08-28 1:56 ` Stefan Monnier
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2013-08-28 1:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 0:35 ` Marc Weber
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2013-08-28 1:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 3:25 ` Marc Weber
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2013-08-28 4:08 ` Rustom Mody
2013-08-28 20:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 20:37 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-28 1:39 ` Jorge
2013-10-12 13:39 ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-10-12 15:30 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-12 20:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-12 20:57 ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-10-12 20:58 ` Emanuel Berg
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2013-10-12 21:01 ` Kai Grossjohann
2013-10-12 21:14 ` Drew Adams
2013-10-12 21:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-10-13 13:33 ` Kai Großjohann
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2013-10-13 15:25 ` Emanuel Berg
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