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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207815 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>> Tino Calancha writes: > In addition, i don't think you should unconditionaly object just because = Eli > object. Eli and I happen to agree on this: We don't want to change a long-standing feature, however poorly conceived, without greater conviction. I commented = in the bug thread on the things I'd like to see happen next. Also, you shouldn't query Richard for his opinion, you should query everyon= e. Richard is not going to countermand our decision; convince us and the community that it's wise to make this change, and we will. So for I think o= nly 5 people total have participated in this discussion. I believe Eli has proposed a solution that offers a middle ground. 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