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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250219 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 13:36:08 -0400, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel said: Cl=C3=A9ment> On 13/05/2020 12.58, Alan Third wrote: >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:03:06PM -0400, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel w= rote: >>>=20 >>> But the complexity of PGP is a valid concern. I operated under the >>> assumption that most new contributors sign copyright papers with >>> PGP, and so that PGP was a reasonable baseline. >>=20 >> I didn=E2=80=99t sign mine with PGP, as far as I can remember, so my >> assumption was that most people don=E2=80=99t. Is it a new requireme= nt? Cl=C3=A9ment> It's not a new requirement, just a new option, I think :) Cl=C3=A9ment> (well, not so new: I did mine in 2014 with PGP). I did mine in 2017 via print/sign/scan, I guess it depends on where you reside. There are other options these days, but we=CA=BCd have to find an acceptable ESIGN/eIDAS provider to use. Robert