From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA-theme? 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255980 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:08:50 +0200, Daniele Nicolodi said: Daniele> On 16/09/2020 15:29, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Would it make sense to define a new custom-theme (or minor-mode until >> custom-theme can handle that) which makes Emacs's behavior match the >> "standard" in most other applications? Daniele> If I understand correctly the recent discussions, one of the main goals Daniele> is to make Emacs more accessible to newcomers. In this respect, are we Daniele> sure that using the "theme" concept, associated (outside the Emacs Daniele> world) with customizing how applications looks, to configure the Daniele> application behavior is a good idea? Daniele> Reportedly, one of the things that newcomers struggle with is the Daniele> peculiar and unique jargon used to describe Emacs concepts. This would Daniele> add one more. I think the concept of "mode" as something that changes Daniele> application behavior is well established and easier to explain. Except you then engender confusion with the Emacs concept of modes. Perhaps we should call them 'user type profiles' or something, then we could call them 'new-to-emacs-profile', 'vanilla-profile', etc. Robert