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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:327170 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , >> ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com, >> acorallo@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 20:45:30 +0100 >>=20 >> Pip Cet writes: >>=20 >> >> Forking MPS is obviously better to avoid, if at all possible. >> > >> > Forking MPS on GNU/Linux x86-64, in particular. I'm not sure how Gerd >> > feels about macOS. >>=20 >> My Emacs just works, but I'm meanwhile exclusively running --without-ns >> only, because NS is unstable for me for years, and I've given up on it. > > So we will probably be interested to hear from someone who runs the > branch build --with-ns. Yes, for long-term testing. The NS version with igc worked fine for me until I ditched NS.