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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r65sm93623742pfa.27.2016.04.19.18.47.04 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Apr 2016 18:47:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C01691443EDA9; Tue, 19 Apr 2016 18:47:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160420012845.GA4548@holos.localdomain> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Tue, 19 Apr 2016 21:28:45 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.92 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Mark Oteiza , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203112 Archived-At: >>>>> Mark Oteiza writes: > There has been much churn over what the purpose of the branches are, the > rationale of which was neither explained nor clarified on the relevant > thread on which I specifically recall mentioning what the status quo was and > asking why it was being changed. It is pretty irritating to be jumped on for > what are perhaps the least intrusive pushes of those I have made recently. I hope I can clarify the current purpose of our branches: emacs-25: We're preparing this for release, so everyone should be very cautious. Even a safe fix, if not necessary, should go to master now. master: Work toward Emacs 26. Most changes should go here, but new API changes and new functionality should still not be introduced without some discussion on this list. feature branches: Commit anything you like, for review by others on this list. When it comes to emacs-25, it's not that your change was improper, it's just that a question was raised, and so it needed to be addressed. I apologize if it sounded like you were being jumped on, that was not the intent. It was purely out of caution for this branch -- a caution that will continue to intensify as we approach the hopeful target of June 21. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2