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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cu2sm21532329pad.18.2016.09.29.09.38.03 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:38:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 65C1D29111AF; Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:38:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a8eqoi08.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:14:31 +0300") Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord), monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207900 Archived-At: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > Can't we handle the differences during the build without separating >> > directories? E.g., we already have some files that should not be >> > byte-compiled, and we handle it with a file-local variable. Can't we >> > do something similar with this issue? >> >> Sure. We already, for example, have the obsolete directory which is >> excluded from some of the build make processes. >> >> But, I think it will ultimately be more complex. We will have one >> subdirectory with a different package organisation from the all the >> others. EZ> We should at least try, IMO, and not dismiss that possibility before we EZ> really see the difficulties and can assess them. I agree with Eli here. The more "natural" we can make the ELPA integration, the better I think it will be, since it will allow the flexibility for either approach, depending on what is best. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2