From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching to Subversion Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:11:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mz6y8y3j.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bqne87ur.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <10609.1163264429@olgas.newt.com> <87fycphhyr.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> <87odrdzci9.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <87ac2w45e0.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <85y7qfvigo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163409130 8819 80.91.229.2 (13 Nov 2006 09:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Thomas Arendsen Hein , Bill Wohler , Juanma Barranquero , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 13 10:12:06 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXrC-0008NQ-5W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:11:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXrB-0008OC-JV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXqx-0008NM-En for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXqv-0008Mn-Uc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjXqv-0008Mk-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.141.58.119] (helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GjXqo-0005sN-N3; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 04:11:35 -0500 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslcs040.osnanet.de [89.166.146.40]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.10) with ESMTP id kAD9BU5U011101; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:11:30 +0100 Original-Received: from wilde by kenny.sha-bang.de with local (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1GjXql-0005Ei-BA; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:11:31 +0100 Original-To: David Kastrup In-Reply-To: <85y7qfvigo.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Mon\, 13 Nov 2006 09\:50\:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62183 Archived-At: David Kastrup wrote: > Sascha Wilde writes: > > [...] > >> One big obstacle with git (which he mentions, too) is the >> user interface. With a project like Emacs I think its rather >> essential, that the SCM is easy to use for developers, and most >> developers are used to CVS. Mercurial is designed to be very >> approachable to people knowing CVS. > > In my opinion, any SCM system that is not fully supported by a stock > Emacs 22 on all major operating systems where Emacs runs on is not > acceptable for managing Emacs 23. There are some Emacs modes supporting mercurial available: DVC (which I use) and mercurial.el, which comes with mercurial, for example. (I think there were some more, but I wasn't able to find them right now) I'm absolutely positive that the developers of either would be willing to sign papers, and as these are self contained modes, I think it could even be an option to integrated them at this point of the release process. But on the other hand: Emacs Developers will be using the development version anyway, so integrating mercurial support shortly after the release should be sufficient. cheers sascha -- Sascha Wilde God put me on earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind I will never die. -- Bill Waterson, Calvin and Hobbes