From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:37:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <877ipev1iv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184535503 14783 80.91.229.12 (15 Jul 2007 21:38:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:38:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 15 23:38:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IABnJ-00040I-FR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:38:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IABnI-0000tU-UA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:38:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IABnE-0000tF-UG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IABnC-0000t3-IE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:38:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IABnC-0000t0-Cg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IABnC-0003Jk-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IABn6-0004wT-O4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:38:08 +0200 Original-Received: from kpm26.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.203]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:38:08 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by kpm26.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:38:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: kpm26.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAMFBMVEUaFRZLMy1dTENxVzKQ WiCrXQ97cmO/dSqSh3akjGTApXy5sJ7Sxo/Sz8Xo6eP9//xJbkruAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlw SFlzAAACxQAAAsUBidZ/7wAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMJOwHXewoAAAIBSURBVCjPVdNBiNNAFADQ6J4F x3hThHZBBC+WCFI8SS0iezRDcMHLHkLAg6gJH/fgYQ9xYlj2sLK4KHgqCgXFhda2Idmr4kkQPZQ0 nkQMbTypbMmMM2m7ZgYSmMef/5OZPwo7HFnx3uKPcmj0Dht1LWZJ+Hvr7dIFZXRUwl9VRTuuKDJ+ U44gjscknK4hhJaCkYRsWjmBtLqXlJAG2wipNe18OZJu1BBq1E8xafl4s6Jq2mUZGftU1y7CCxnp FVUDWJXx4C66BKBnErbuoaYNtoRTu6EZBsCbMn7W+5qOAR6WvxNOby9jHWC9hAf3n304CdiAByXs 3Nh9roLDkyb/sWV712vYwaLSAn8CPMHIAAzOPDKP2COAFm4Y4ODVWc6xG7KXsN7UeUJjjimx2uwd gCgNhr0i8C/xyCD5CiCKAMY3Bf5oDzx//w/fimscdcAZU2jv9sedx6+nYPPFIoWI/GK6QZ+EFGOR ErAjCnV3vPZ7XqlTIMbOLY7fLcvvmT7rXNWaGDexIY44N12TG2PDp7vqyl57dnCeuWwyNpnEURxk fTbDYeBnKRn4oejPYI4sH6WviBumEZ/GxX4X/x6EcURFZ7E071bjQGAxpcOAEOJuTiroDEea5Szv rVWLYfl7ZiQwSUToxrkux7OLixAWGz22+HIyWTRYcVfomOwvzusfjtVIGgLHf3MAAAAASUVORK5C YII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 Emacs/23.0.0 (20070710) Fedora 7 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aJnp048cihnZBp11Lf4Yu5HEbkk= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74845 Archived-At: On 2007-07-06 01:06 +0100, Chong Yidong wrote: > This recent change leads to annoying behavior: > > 2007-07-02 Richard Stallman > > * startup.el (command-line): Set buffer-offer-save in *scratch* > and enable auto-save in it. > > After this was checked in, I noticed Emacs kept asking me if I wanted > to save the *scratch* buffer upon each exit. That was annoying, but > tolerable, so I just answered "no". A while later, I happened to do > an `ls' in my home directory, and found it cluttered with 10-20 > auto-save files: > > #*scratch*#10823QZW# > #*scratch*#220140RY# > #*scratch*#72802aU# > ... > > At the very least, we should (i) offer an option to adopt the Emacs 22 > behavior for the *scratch* buffer, i.e. with buffer-offer-save and > auto-save disabled, and (ii) delete the auto-save file if the user > answers "no" when asked if *scratch* should be saved. I agree 100%. This new behavior is just annoying. Everybody knows what *scratch* means. Why would someone want to save things in scratch? Or why would they put important things in *scratch* in the first place? -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F)