From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:12:00 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444587153 17743 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 18:12:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:12:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 20:12:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlL6g-0005lj-Dw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:12:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49329 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlL6f-0001tN-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:12:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46008) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlL6Q-0001sm-8C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlL6L-0001Pf-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c]:36773) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlL6L-0001PY-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: by pablk4 with SMTP id lk4so133320288pab.3 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tMUrhQDTKige9JtlR4vweX+zwYgKXEOfgznAxdjulx8=; b=iciOTdeZCi+Rwqet4qbeE9cjMEg7Til/I8R0YLj2pdUsUuKxVxj8V35EuDA0nceLd1 cSi3aOe2FupVsWlHuHDONcJ+MJDt25ytQNqDRhDHLy8dwOqt5X1i8vIZCSi/+GRR66BM GjzXpRXxecPsX1o85CwvF3O7RO5FWUQIRZITpPNpH4dkyQT2maECps/zVcBntbh1YEHI k3Q8CYBEUc9Fwn+TOEmy5D1I6IqY43wz1ZlcHC/d2qWMrmY6Diu2okq59ew1WbqOzBNm Yrsrm7UM4xve8fA6/vEIMzlB64+wXXSAMA3bqbti368luiYR6eD5AZnqTStq1bNoM3V9 NhaA== X-Received: by 10.68.189.198 with SMTP id gk6mr29022638pbc.141.1444587124096; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ln10sm12877467pab.29.2015.10.11.11.12.02 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2BE38F2B13E8; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <561A6199.1020901@cumego.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22Przemys=C5=82aw?= Wojnowski"'s message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2015 15:18:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191254 Archived-At: >>>>> Przemys=C5=82aw Wojnowski writes: > I cannot say what makes a Ruby programmer productive, but I can list a few > things important for Java programmers. Others, having experience with oth= er > languages, may list _must have_ features for their environments. I presented a list of candidate IDE features a few days ago. If you could present your list in terms of additions or subtractions from that one, it would make things much easier. I believe I already covered everything that = you proposed, but I'd like your confirmation of that. John