From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alex Dunn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development suggestions from an ENSIME developer Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:42:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <46f603db-cf91-495d-d330-87b3538b7872@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470508981 32619 195.159.176.226 (6 Aug 2016 18:43:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 18:43:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Notmuch/0.22.1 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.1.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.6.0) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley , =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 06 20:42:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bW6Yg-0007Vq-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 20:42:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50302 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bW6Yd-0004am-85 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 14:42:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55915) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bW6YS-0004aO-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 14:42:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bW6YP-00039N-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 14:42:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f]:36125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bW6YP-00039J-6c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 14:42:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id pp5so101828637pac.3 for ; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:42:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xHt4OANm3BMPVtnIRzOwb0Fv8QWFmf/7o6dzT4nTss8=; b=Pqi4LMGF4nzEMrNZ0Afc3ceG2AGb++iQJ0JBpVxJN7j9OCfoMqvliwaB+D2uNw3I9i TY0joU0Jw6dldW4s6QDsE2iQG72kVLqnDRn4FQ5xyBCFMRuBUmB81wz9g4L5niQtNzxS TVhVhTpY7HNUgxla+vjyrABDOXYaPrii5gtv+iDY3tIlIxOzI/LaSUjM02zGccRxXtKp lRBgb5MlyWKtFgvltZ3+0WbFMUUzZsUiPdpIwmANcFtwbnJcMqiERRcq9aFiU2T0Fy9P UdiAyCOPbvd9PMP3V/NZ8NvIrdpx1bWnvkJGcnVq7qK1JbAXUup9yR6IkiMdb2Skpd8P JvOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xHt4OANm3BMPVtnIRzOwb0Fv8QWFmf/7o6dzT4nTss8=; b=TZsEe+X6UEw/LC0UFqdhu6ygt3PIWobDytRHnj3QSdfIFKfgBUGAQM3mxocydW5W+q T133y30aaLjGDesL+NAxnZ/zL/Ut4Q1xg6yUKNA0QnkLWxlvTibWZtLgu6tyK5cNYatZ sOybmHTaWZJ5s35+3PgNzBtNaMuMMmmO8UjPf+nv/4Y3YSJ1VwcZYnyVsUUUI9CW4ap/ kFKt50tNxPar58nkhOTdTAvZzfDgtmX6v0/hPq1GuOTpFR/AD0C7GBGVMHJfMwlCmURL rzPVQ1EV1UFwlTdegcwsXdFoxKNhbSER9XdgsSR5C5SR7WUHw/tdwt0RUoOruFTecPkS kpKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvTP8qcWdDA/hNHn9pwUJ6qS34FAlsh546SrEgs3906dNJEbpt63cbvnswx1/Lmzg== X-Received: by 10.66.138.74 with SMTP id qo10mr146939977pab.135.1470508956123; Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (pool-74-111-235-97.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net. [74.111.235.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c82sm36788812pfb.72.2016.08.06.11.42.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 06 Aug 2016 11:42:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206462 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: > Some make the argument that publishing a code of conduct announces to oth= ers > what our standards are, and that we are accepting of all peoples, of all > persuasions. It does this, and it=E2=80=99s good to have it formalized, but it=E2=80=99s= also a very useful way to signal that the community has chosen to adopt a certain stance; namely one according to which social justice _is_ important. If this upsets people who sneer at =E2=80=9CSJWs=E2=80=9D and share ESR=E2=80= =99s paranoid fantasies about feminists trying to honeypot Linus, then so much the better. A community can=E2=80=99t be welcoming to everyone, when some grou= ps are openly antagonistic toward others. A code of conduct helps clarify which groups can expect to feel welcome in a community, and which aren=E2= =80=99t (e.g., those who compare CoCs to nuclear weapons: https://github.com/fontforge/fontforge/issues/2765#issuecomment-237721149).