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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242823 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain >>>>> On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 06:55:28 +0100, Stefan Kangas said: Stefan> Juri Linkov writes: >> I'm still not sure if a fancier look is worth the trouble, >> especially since in some sense it's a change for the worse: >> it takes too much screen space, so less tabs can fit into the tab bar. >> >> Please see the difference: the first image is the current tab shapes, >> on the second image you can see that less tabs can be displayed >> on the tab bar: Stefan> FWIW, and this is of course highly subjective, but I think the rounded Stefan> style looks much better, more professional and more modern. The Stefan> trade-off with regards to screen real estate will be well worth it for Stefan> the default case, I think. If we decide to go that way, we could Stefan> always keep the other look around as an option for those working on Stefan> smaller screens. Is it possible to emulate the chrome/chromium method, where the curve of the active tab covers the inactive tabs to the right/left? 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