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[2003:e0:b70d:2900:9cfd:9544:43:4498]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-aab96068d1esm405138466b.67.2024.12.16.19.32.21 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:32:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86a5cvpeiv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 16 Dec 2024 22:19:04 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:297249 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Ship Mints >> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 15:07:25 -0500 >> Cc: fgunbin@fastmail.fm, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, jared@finder.org, >> 74833@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Now I see the recent change to master (Dec 9). I'd add that pretty much every other "curses" based app >> that supports mouse activity defaults to mouse on, though. Not sure >> why Emacs's recent default to on should >> be surprising. People would be surprised that the mouse doesn't work. That Terminal.app also steals >> command keys from those apps is also not a surprise. > > First, xt-mouse is not about curses, it's about xterm-specific mouse > protocol. Replace "curses" which he put in quotes with terminal application and what Ship Mints says is true. > And second, the issue here, at least for me, is not the user surprise > that the mouse works, it's that features which used to work in Emacs > when running on Terminal.app before that change cease to work, at > least in some situations, now. I really don't know what you are talking about when you write "feature in Emacs". There is no feature _in_ Emacs that is broken. Emacs doesn't even get a keyboard event for Command-C, it has no idea what is going on. It's Terminal.app that behaves differently. And Terminal.app has previsions for that (Command-R, Fn-mouse).