From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sean O'Rourke" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Post-22.1 development? Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:42:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <878xb05ras.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <864plnorgn.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <85ps4ap0kh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7D7C0678-2728-4054-8032-D7072E57BE7A@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1181256149 29451 80.91.229.12 (7 Jun 2007 22:42:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs- devel To: David Reitter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 08 00:42:28 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HwQgV-0007YG-MF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:42:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQgV-00028R-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQgS-00026g-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:42:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQgQ-00023i-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:42:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HwQgQ-00023E-Hx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound1.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.205]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HwQgQ-00074U-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.ucsd.edu (smtp.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.49]) by outbound1.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l57MgIKN004281 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:42:19 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=2007001; d=ucsd.edu; c=simple; q=dns; b=s2QDCZ7Mspo/MwP/W4Iglm8+XOXoVO9a7ktZOgUqjz5bGBucd23T1g8yJfXZAw3// ZQ30V2GL4Z7Ka7tYIf+Cw== Original-Received: from mister-foo.local ([128.54.220.221]) by smtp.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id l57MgHAj024466; Thu, 7 Jun 2007 15:42:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7D7C0678-2728-4054-8032-D7072E57BE7A@gmail.com> (David Reitter's message of "Thu\, 7 Jun 2007 23\:25\:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:72446 Archived-At: David Reitter writes: > I generally recommend Carbon Emacs to people who have been using > Emacs for a long time. Right, and although there's something to be said for doing things =E0 la Emacs, I'm gradually accepting that it's not possible to convert everyone to the old-school point of view. ;) > - better support of variable-width fonts Absolutely, e.g. for reading info pages. It should be little more work to do this agreeably than to do it at all. > - optional replacement of windows inside frames with multiple > frames This, on the other hand, seems harder to get right without disturbing people's habits. Perhaps adding more customization to pop-to-buffer and display-buffer is the way to go? > - toolbars using the system's toolkit rather than something homegrown > - toolkit based dialogs with a redesigned customization hierarchy > rather than customization buffers As long as they're optional. Figuring out the interaction between `custom-set-variables' and `setq' wasn't my idea of a good time, and I'd rather not do something similar for `gui-save-dialog-options'. :) /s