From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Periodical releases Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:34:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <71588355363047528F16FE989690A488@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325731222 13108 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 02:40:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 02:40:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 03:40:15 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFW-0002sB-QP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34379 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFW-00051c-8s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:40:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56395) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFT-00051M-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFR-0006YT-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:40:11 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:41928) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFR-0006YL-Mq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:40:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RidFQ-0002rI-KT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:40:08 +0100 Original-Received: from 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com ([207.172.223.249]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:40:08 +0100 Original-Received: from dave by 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:40:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Oy7hazcG5CPXGO0EucnZwApcy4U= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147308 Archived-At: on Mon Jan 02 2012, "Drew Adams" wrote: >> Don't wait until "perfection" and release trunk more often >> with bug releases if needed. > > No, no, no, please. Just the opposite. > Bake Emacs _more_ fully before releasing it. > > Get it right. Document it well. Mention all user-visible changes in > NEWS. Fix outstanding bugs. > > Richard had exactly the right approach to releasing Emacs, IMO. He > was attacked by some because they felt the release cycle was too > short. I, for one, appreciated his thoroughness and insistence on > high quality. Is it not possible to have thorougness and high quality with more frequent releases of smaller scope? Maybe the problem (if there is one) is that trunk is allowed to drift too far from a releasable state. I'm just saying. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com