From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Helmut Eller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package initialization Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:48:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87twt1dmxu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437302918 1741 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 10:48:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:48:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm92-0007lA-KF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:48:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51016 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm91-0001UL-Vu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:48:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40681) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm8p-0001TP-RO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:48:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm8m-0008RW-Ik for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:48:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]:35141) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm8m-0008RJ-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: by wgav7 with SMTP id v7so45415950wga.2 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:48:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PukcpBO+wCRIXhFaIMv01bof3+ultifgVEZmwJj/JrE=; b=jLElPOYaUgft2ttND8n2pj/IIf7fsjXjdEXTd1VMhQ+kq0r+FaAeXZEjv4kKdzbk6h p09uW/xKF0iUqifvmGGNrHGelgGa0XnnBU9XvHIEBlvPnOniIAVf5bkFOu/SUr8SxIx5 dvZRTzynHfWD8arCe3GaZ9Xnp+djmXqNl4jdLgOkq5OiVc7aCdikB8R/bWnuy//Sikvv S2VF4SSkprPIyMVHAGK1lUFiJXkLYjAnX1/Qod6uGvXjooxRtA+QoefV5HOA6q/tB9Pe QJvPGVHCxQC/nA8Iy8EgfUdG+yZ5SXNVhpVg3FtG35aNX0gHMdMP8JCPIsjq0byPLB0E 4wDA== X-Received: by 10.180.78.136 with SMTP id b8mr11286048wix.44.1437302895652; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ix ([212.46.170.156]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jz4sm26678801wjb.16.2015.07.19.03.48.14 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Jul 2015 03:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from helmut by ix with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGm8j-0000d7-Nw; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:48:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: (bruce connor am's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:35:59 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187983 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 19 2015, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com wrote: >> So you are saying this is good style?=C2=A0 And how is this supposed to = offer >> the option that people like me don't want to have the keybinding without >> setting it explicitly in .emacs. > > If it's a keybind on a specific mode, and if it doesn't conflict with the > keys for that mode, then it's low-impact enough that it's alright. > > It's safe to assume that a user who installs SLIME would like a convenient > way to start SLIME from lisp-mode. The cases where that's not true are > unlikely to be bothered by an extra keybind. The cases that are bothered > (because it conflicts with some personal keybind), will have to add a lin= e to > their init file (either to prevent activation of your package or to fix t= he > conflict). > In other words: the recommended style is to set up key bindings with autoload cookies. Helmut