From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 09:09:11 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <20150805055619.13567.17B26335@ahiker.mooo.com> <17131863-cbb8-4a85-8470-490fe9a0c0d4@googlegroups.com> <66dceb24-5fef-4316-8c8b-e9a3e62b0fb8@googlegroups.com> <3594e2c6-bd02-412f-98df-9dd0f145277a@googlegroups.com> <01b4d996-aad3-44ff-a580-7950b25b7dc8@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439406214 993 80.91.229.3 (12 Aug 2015 19:03:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:03:34 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 12 21:03:19 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbJ1-0003WQ-4d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:03:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39912 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbJ0-0002KP-64 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43677) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbIp-0002KE-OW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:03:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbIl-0007le-Q8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbIl-0007k5-Ja for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPbIi-0003Lw-Ak for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:03:00 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net ([76.234.68.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:03:00 +0200 Original-Received: from johnw by 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:03:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wS078OYHeTLKiomBmhSd7rDMnHo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106515 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: > So are you saying that use-package is designed for the case where you don't > use ELPA? It is the impression I got when I looked at use-package, but it > seems like an odd position nowadays. It may be! I don't use ELPA. I have a hand-crafted set of packages that are all in Git (using git-subtree, to ensure cloning always succeeds), which gives me an extremely stable environment. It may well be a one-off use pattern, but it has worked well for me for many years. > To be more precise, I don't think those problems in packages are > particularly frequent, so it's perfectly OK to report them in those rare > remaining cases. I guess the frequency would require at least a poll to determine. You and I may be outliers on the spectrum... John