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From: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
To: Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: From Gnus to mu4e
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 10:25:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2r3mnom53.fsf@krugs.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150828001629.11433.17209627@ahiker.mooo.com> (Ian Zimmerman's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:24:33 -0700")

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Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> writes:

> On 2015-08-28 02:14 +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
>
>> No, it's not.  AFAIK on most (all?) *nix filesystems, basic operations
>> are atomic.  See for example this (outdated) list:
>> 
>> http://rcrowley.org/2010/01/06/things-unix-can-do-atomically.html
>> 
>> E.g., this breaks down when you talk about network mounts like NFS (not
>> sure about SSHFS), but it is a valid assumption as long as your storage
>> is local.
>
> Assume there's a message ~/Mail/inbox/cur/1440718280.10956_2.ahiker:2,S
>
> MUA 1 wants to set the "tagged" flag, which means renaming
>
> 1440718280.10956_2.ahiker:2,S -> 1440718280.10956_2.ahiker:2,FS
>
> MUA 2 wants to set the "replied" flag, which means renaming
>
> 1440718280.10956_2.ahiker:2,S -> 1440718280.10956_2.ahiker:2,RS
>
> Only one of them can succeed, depending on the order they try.  And
> final state also depends on that order.

Interesting discussion - and I am learning that I do not know enough to
say that there *can* be race conditions, but I know that they are *bad*
when they occur and can lead to corruption or undefined behavior. And I
also know that I do not want this, particularly not in email.
So using dovecot to RW access the maildir is the safe way to go.
Notmuch is also accessing the maildir directly, but only read-only.

Cheers,

Rainer


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20 21:23 From Gnus to mu4e Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-21 10:28 ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-21 10:49   ` Colin Yates
2015-08-21 13:06 ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-26  6:53   ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-25  5:49 ` Bastien
2015-08-25  6:28   ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-25  6:56     ` Bastien Guerry
2015-08-26  7:22   ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-27 12:50     ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-27 17:15       ` Bastien
2015-08-28  8:39         ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-28  8:44           ` Bastien
2015-08-28  8:51             ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-28  8:58               ` Rasmus
2015-08-28  9:15                 ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-28 10:03                   ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-28 10:08                     ` Rasmus
2015-08-28 10:41                       ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-28 10:04                   ` Rasmus
2015-08-28  8:51           ` Bastien
2015-08-27 21:27       ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-27 23:34         ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-27 23:50           ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-28  0:14             ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-28  0:24               ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-28  8:25                 ` Rainer M Krug [this message]
2015-08-28  9:06                 ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-28 15:31                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-08-31  0:16                     ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-28  8:21         ` Rainer M Krug
2015-08-27 12:58     ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-27 15:52       ` Glenn Morris
2015-08-27 17:32         ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-27 17:11       ` Bastien
2015-08-27 17:08     ` Bastien
2015-08-27 17:30       ` Suvayu Ali
2015-08-27 21:52       ` Julien Cubizolles
2015-08-27 22:18         ` Bastien
2015-08-27 23:30           ` Julien Cubizolles
     [not found] <mailman.14.1440105837.31004.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-08-24 11:19 ` Joost Kremers

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