From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Fleischer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Re- text formating Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 16:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <82d4febc-c8f9-06be-e2a8-c3967fb70a2e@posteo.de> <428aaeeb-eb6e-03b7-32ec-60298b8f9e39@posteo.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23735"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" , incal@dataswamp.org, Jean Louis To: Gottfried Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 15:24:19 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pPOtP-00060K-6P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:23:36 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Home-Mac ([141.226.11.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s13-20020a170906c30d00b0088842b00241sm6916304ejz.114.2023.02.07.06.23.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:23:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <428aaeeb-eb6e-03b7-32ec-60298b8f9e39@posteo.de> (gottfried@posteo.de's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2023 10:57:45 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=danflscr@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142639 Archived-At: Gottfried [2023-02-07 Tue 10:57] wrote: > That=E2=80=99s why I was asking to simplify Emacs in order to get a WYSIW= YG mode, word-mode, > > I don=E2=80=99t need to create professional documents. > > I don=E2=80=99t know Latex, Org-mode, an so on. It's an interesting question. In order to think about it you need to expand the context. Say there's a mode that combines text with formatting. How are you going to save this on file? Which format? text/enrich is ancient and looks like html so it's not easy to read outside Emacs. Rich text format (RTF) is proprietary. You start moving towards light markup languages such as asciidoc, org, markdown which strike a good tradeoff between human readability, expressive enough to describe various formattings easily, they're open source and there are many tools that can present them nicely. If you insist on not learning any markup language and interested in WYSIWYG experience maybe you should give Texmacs a try: https://texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html There's some WYSIWYG aspects in Emacs, for example in Auctex. But probably there wasn't much demand for that in the past.=20 --=20 Daniel Fleischer