Gnome scrollbar?

Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

Can I change the scroll bars to obey Gnome-style mouse commands with
MandrakeLinux and emacs-21.3?  Maybe with recompiling Emacs?  

I don't know who invented the athena-style mouse/scroll controls, but
I didn't like them then, and still don't like them now ;)

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 26.01.2005 um 19:26 schrieb Gary Lawrence Murphy:

> Can I change the scroll bars to obey Gnome-style mouse commands with
> MandrakeLinux and emacs-21.3?  Maybe with recompiling Emacs?

Invoke configure to give you a little help: "./configure --help". The 
option "--with-x-toolkit=gtk" will be the right one to re-configure GNU 
Emacs and give it (partly) a native GTK+ look -- with menus you can 
tear away!

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

Hmmmm ...  using the latest sources from FSF (gnu.org):

 [garym@maya emacs-21.3]$ ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-x-toolkit=gtk

  creating cache ./config.cache
  configure: error: `--with-x-toolkit=gtk' is invalid\;
  this option's value should be `yes', `no', `lucid', `athena', or `motif'.
  Currently, `yes', `athena' and `lucid' are synonyms.

Is there some particular or additional source for the gtk toolkit extension?

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 26.01.2005 um 23:09 schrieb Gary Lawrence Murphy:

> Is there some particular or additional source for the gtk toolkit 
> extension?

Someone mentioned the source needs to come from CVS! In the archives of 
January you'll find a bit about this. (And if not in January than in 
December.)

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Henrik Enberg]

Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes:

[...]

> Invoke configure to give you a little help: "./configure --help". The
> option "--with-x-toolkit=gtk" will be the right one to re-configure GNU
> Emacs and give it (partly) a native GTK+ look -- with menus you can tear
> away!

Note that this requires Emacs from CVS.

Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

Indeed it does require CVS, and once compiled, it's very nice.  

My thanks to whoever was involved in the GTK toolkit option, it's
wonderful.  Now if only there was some clever hack way to embed an
emacsclient as a replacement for all the textarea form widgets in
Mozilla, my life would be complete.

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[David Kastrup]

Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym@canada.com> writes:

> Indeed it does require CVS, and once compiled, it's very nice.  
>
> My thanks to whoever was involved in the GTK toolkit option, it's
> wonderful.  Now if only there was some clever hack way to embed an
> emacsclient as a replacement for all the textarea form widgets in
> Mozilla, my life would be complete.

The MozEx extension is supposed to do that.  But is appears only
available for Mozilla 0.9.

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

>>>>> "D" == David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

    >> ...  Now if only there was some clever hack way to
    >> embed an emacsclient as a replacement for all the textarea form
    >> widgets in Mozilla, my life would be complete.

    D> The MozEx extension is supposed to do that.  But is appears
    D> only available for Mozilla 0.9.

No freakin' way!  Really??? And I /missed/ it???

all may not be lost ... there's an article on Newsforge that suggests
MozEx may still be compatible, at least with FF 1.0PR ...

http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/10/12/1644203

    One caveat: mozex has not yet been updated to fully support
    Firefox version 1.0PR or above. This means that you have to
    hand-edit your Firefox preferences file before you run it.

the article explains how to use this to intercept mail links, but
the same method may also work for other text areas.

And maybe that means it will work with Mozilla 1.7 too; FF is way too
much of a resource hog for my old machines to carry.

thanks for the tip!

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

oh ... indeed it does work with Mozilla, installs without incident
from http://mozex.mozdev.org/installation.html ... so now it's just
a matter of indoctrinating it into Emacs.

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Pierre-Charles David]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:26:27 -0500, Gary Lawrence Murphy
<garym@canada.com> wrote:
> oh ... indeed it does work with Mozilla, installs without incident
> from http://mozex.mozdev.org/installation.html ... so now it's just
> a matter of indoctrinating it into Emacs.

See also http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/FireFox for more
complete step-by-step instructions.

Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

Thanks for the links -- turns out it is very simple to do the
text-area thing, although the actual process is a bit clunky.  I do
agree with the author, this functionality belongs in the core of the
Mozilla code, and towards that aim I have established a
feature-request on the bugzilla at

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280608

if anyone else would like to see the text-areas of Mozilla with
comforting status-bars at the base of each pane :) please visit that
link and vote for this enhancement.

I've also posted a bit about my experience and some ideas for the
eventual (inevitable?) Moz/Emacs integration on my blog at
http://blog.teledyn.com/node/2232

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Re: Mozex and Emacs

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

Mostly because I had to write these down to transfer them to my
laptop anyway, but hey, why not share? :)

The config options I find useful for using the Mozex extension with
Emacs are as follows:

Mailer: /home/garym/bin/email %A %S
Text Areas: /usr/bin/emacsclient %t

Emacsclient you know, but the email script is as follows:

    #!/bin/sh
    # wrapper for mozex: use email <addresses> <subject>
    exec emacsclient -e "(compose-mail \"$1\" \"$2\")" > /dev/null

in addition, I have placed the following function on a function-key 
so I can quickly promote a mozex buffer for use with PSGML mode, 
although I haven't figure out how to get it to start at a DIV
level instead of insisting on <HTML> as the overall tag (do I need
to work from a subset of the XHTML DTD?)

(defun xhtml-ced ()
  "begin editing XHTML document"
  (interactive)
  (html-mode)
  (sgml-load-dtd (expand-file-name "~/dev/xhtml.ced")))

(global-set-key [(control f4)] 'xhtml-ced)

I also tried to automate this with

(setq auto-mode-alist
     (append  '(("^mozex\\.textarea\\..*\\.txt" . html-mode))
     	       auto-mode-alist))

but it didn't work :(

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Re: Gnome scrollbar?

[Stefan Monnier]

> Can I change the scroll bars to obey Gnome-style mouse commands with
> MandrakeLinux and emacs-21.3?  Maybe with recompiling Emacs?  

Actually, it's under the control of Xaw3d which can behave either way
depending on the SCROLLBAR_ARROW (or somesuch) option when you
compile Xaw3d.


        Stefan "who likes Xaw's scrollbar features"