From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Questioning the new behavior of `open-line'. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87vb98csu1.fsf@red-bean.com> <87h9kscqig.fsf@red-bean.com> <83vb98jqwp.fsf@gnu.org> <5643951A.8040602@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447269960 17452 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 19:26:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , Eli Zaretskii , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 20:25:59 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwb1q-00037o-FQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:25:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42598 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwb1q-0000bO-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37548) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwb1T-0000Xb-IY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:25:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwb1P-0001kA-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:25:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]:36300) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zwb1J-0001jL-TW; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: by pacdm15 with SMTP id dm15so39002204pac.3; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=lMvO7LV0odeUvuloglQ/13XvcvCibJKcJgn6/cAxTJI=; b=Pa0Z8e8UsNKYZMNrLlsOqx9NMklJPwj5G2EnE+cEuO9ZlLCl8rZ2q0RO+8DN9QlhRV HkSzfQw/xnQRz1Ri8lw5nUwp1w/WZSGhF8hOOskYTTr0XyUWp4F6pyvyAQDbJkWWa5dn u+Yp6mIKfxI9ogqFPr7A27X202Csl7TqAbkjSsk2YcBB5oBEV3JlTHAbmXfOwN7GbAqa qEdmTPnNT9jtt95Wx5BA6Eu8YHn03MhLrECMvVZQQQsF47SsWMuGbtQSR1kaZa9vec9K ljEZDJDLpkNlJQPOllSFbQMhtZZRvwzGfjBBo6avINGDofHUM9/U54YQ+VzN6QfBJmFp KTqA== X-Received: by 10.68.170.4 with SMTP id ai4mr17107336pbc.78.1447269925352; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.attlocal.net (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id sx1sm10724726pbc.36.2015.11.11.11.25.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.attlocal.net (Postfix, from userid 501) id 276271055C28F; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5643951A.8040602@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:20:58 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , Karl Fogel , bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194124 Archived-At: >>>>> Paul Eggert writes: > which is what I wanted: a new blank line with the cursor at the start, and > with no change to the next line. I often use C-o and C-j exactly because I *know* they'll never auto-indent anything, in buffers where I do use that sort of behavior. They are pretty reliable at doing nothing but what they suggest. The one case where this is when C-o inserts a fill-prefix, which I find rather annoying, even. John