From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Markus Triska Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#33901: 26.1; cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:38:53 +0100 Organization: man Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1546084158 4410 195.159.176.226 (29 Dec 2018 11:49:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:49:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Emacs/26.1 To: 33901@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 29 12:49:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD79-0000y5-Cb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:49:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36055 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD9G-0003r2-6u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:51:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33172) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD91-0003mT-5c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:51:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8w-0007yA-Ff for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:53058) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8w-0007xb-7t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:51:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8v-0002zB-Vv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:51:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Markus Triska Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 33901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.154608425311461 (code B ref -1); Sat, 29 Dec 2018 11:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2018 11:50:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8n-0002yn-77 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:53 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8l-0002ya-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:51 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47425) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8f-0007ib-VR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60650) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdD8b-00031f-Qr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:50:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCxL-0002DZ-R2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:39:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=41944 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCxL-0002Cg-KP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 06:39:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gdCvC-00049Y-BX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Dec 2018 12:36:50 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:9GRVyvaTKa1Jn5/K3R0DyRQ/+8o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:153991 Archived-At: Andreas Schwab writes: > Those autoloads are only defined in the cl-macs package. You need to > load it first. Is this really the intended way? I mean, why is this described as an "autoloaded" macro then? From the manual, I gather: The “autoload” feature allows you to call a function or macro whose function definition has not yet been loaded into Emacs. It specifies which file contains the definition. When an autoload object appears as a symbol’s function definition, calling that symbol as a function automatically loads the specified file; then it calls the real ... If I have to load cl-macs before using cl-letf, it seems to be as good as not having an autoload for it at all. Is there any advantage to this?