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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320740 Archived-At: Ergus writes: >>Looks like pgtk is currently not supported, i.e. apparenlty no one >>working on igc is using it, sorry. >> > This is wondering me because all the main distributions/desktops are > moving (or have already moved) to Wayland. > > So, IMHO the pgtk support may be prioritized as it is the only way we > support Wayland natively. > > Not sure if there are plans or alternatives under consideration to > change/improve pgtk, but if igc becomes an issue for it... we may > rethink if we really want it looking to the future? > > WDYT? The only thing I prioritize for myself is macOS and that in my fork with CL packages :-). Also, the idea that an experimental branch that is developed mainly by 2 people should prioritize such things is funny. And finally, the assumption that igc has a problem with pgtk or the other way around is false.