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[217.227.111.168]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-58b3fcf142esm4077734a12.3.2024.07.04.12.09.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 04 Jul 2024 12:09:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86zfqx6ls0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:43:11 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52b; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x52b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321357 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Cc: pipcet@protonmail.com, yantar92@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> eller.helmut@gmail.com >> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 20:28:23 +0200 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > IOW, let me turn the table and ask what does "idleness" have to do >> > with this variable? >>=20 >> Simple. Because this person here, a long time ago, idly put >> mps_arena_step where it is, when writing igc_on_idle, and made Emacs call >> that when idle. > > Then it follows that "we" cause the to begin when Emacs is idle, and > "we" tell MPS that it is kindly requested not to spend more than > igc-step-interval seconds doing GC before it returns, when we trigger > GC via mps_arena_step. Right? We give MPS the chance to to work it wants to, right.=20