From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:12:00 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87odejy30k.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860710311830s4fa203e3y53fbd6f51496f007@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711010824w6888aafdgb0a0e5d48f6fdebb@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194012765 5442 80.91.229.12 (2 Nov 2007 14:12:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, Daiki Ueno , ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 02 15:12:46 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1InxG6-0005VS-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:12:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InxFw-0005Fc-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:12:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1InxFt-0005FJ-B1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:12:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1InxFq-0005F5-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InxFq-0005Ez-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:12:10 -0400 Original-Received: from blockstar.com ([170.224.69.95] helo=mail.blockstar.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1InxFj-0000TW-K1; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mungo (c-67-186-103-18.hsd1.il.comcast.net [67.186.103.18]) by mail.blockstar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B723F851C; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:33:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Followup-To: rms@gnu.org, "Daiki Ueno" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, miles@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:08:26 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82354 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65530 Archived-At: On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:08:26 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> We have already decided we want to install epg. If encrypt.el RS> basically duplicates epg, let's not install encrypt.el in Emacs, RS> or in Gnus. My arguments are in a separate message, but essentially the difference is between providing a GnuPG interface (epg) and providing an architecture with user-supplied ciphers that does not depend on GnuPG or any other external tools (encrypt.el). I think at least Gnus, and IMHO Emacs too, benefit from a self-contained, non-invasive, simple library like encrypt.el. Ted