From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Exposing Isearch toggleable options Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 15:19:21 -0500 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <87611q7c3f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <877fm5tefl.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87wpu3x4p4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <1bb5e765-6599-4076-b9c7-11b416a48db7@default> <87aa94f6-345b-4339-a444-6f3e712f00c5@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446495900 8605 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2015 20:25:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 20:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 02 21:24:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtLek-00083p-Os for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 21:24:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44117 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtLek-0002Bv-1f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 15:24:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtLee-0002BN-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 15:24:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtLeb-0001I8-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 15:24:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]:33871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtLeb-0001I4-Gt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 15:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: by qgem9 with SMTP id m9so125822037qge.1 for ; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id :references:user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=he8Gt6ERNSc/5c3Bz5TwGj1CiZObr49nPk/jBdI9QCQ=; b=MbdWSnqhA0z3YsjbHTc48n84Be28xwaRy2AUMAoIqouWG1kvT7higdMFXlcqriG7XW l8pzG39rF7/CCmavpR6JbwCnYt6J7nBaNvHdxKHSHJn4zoSETVPohrhyWKsGyov2cKIe GJxwwithmsf/5DE/eiUJvK+RruQIFxZqwkXm+/CjWJrXV2yJMyPJhoMbMCasxUXfg+g8 QluvYWBsoWLW+4+LCcqmGU0QU5ze6U5Q01Kej0tSpkixxiwr4Enp98O3n+36gSqSqlom mu+rPofcnsOAF8EUuDMe2WU84u6IkvLSICA0glmAxFo1cQgqKV+ckYdRoYTtogUzt85Z 5fjA== X-Received: by 10.140.143.17 with SMTP id 17mr34324671qhp.36.1446495873167; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Hermes-2.local ([192.54.222.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y79sm8500529qgd.48.2015.11.02.12.24.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 02 Nov 2015 12:24:32 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by Hermes-2.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 63056485DB4E; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 15:24:32 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87aa94f6-345b-4339-a444-6f3e712f00c5@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 1 Nov 2015 16:20:56 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193116 Archived-At: >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > I still disagree, but I've already said most of what I think about this. > I prefer to see *Help* provide help as information, and not try to get into > the business of becoming a clickable dialog box that effects actions. Artur, Would you be willing to write up a final version of your I-search proposal as a separate document, so we can all review it? I feel the important points are getting lost in the weeds with this thread, as I no longer have a coherent picture of your proposed changes. I've created a page at http://www.emacswiki.org specifically for gathering such proposals, so we can review and revise them: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Proposals If you could add a link on that page to your proposed change, it would help focus our discussion. Feel free to continue debating technical points here, I'd just like there to be a "current state of the proposal" that I could look at on any given day, as these discussion evolve. Thank you, John