From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20241: 25.0.50; `setq' with only one argument Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:46:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <16400d25-dff1-4bfb-b929-814714f9e20f@default> <20151123143112.83911.qmail@mail.muc.de> <62twoc5zdo.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151123193138.GG2004@acm.fritz.box> <20151124180452.GB1840@acm.fritz.box> <20151124210956.GC1840@acm.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448416044 25655 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2015 01:47:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20241@debbugs.gnu.org, Artur Malabarba To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 02:47:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAp-00063g-GW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2015 02:47:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42527 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAq-0001b3-So for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:47:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAn-0001at-JX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:47:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAk-0004KP-Dm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:47:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAk-0004KL-AI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAk-0008SP-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:47:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20241 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20241-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20241.144841600032472 (code B ref 20241); Wed, 25 Nov 2015 01:47:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20241) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2015 01:46:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51906 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAN-0008Rg-O2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:46:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53]:35535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a1PAL-0008RY-NZ for 20241@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 20:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: by vkha189 with SMTP id a189so25252307vkh.2 for <20241@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=xh+QAKcM+kkrytKWg2NTY4kCXLepsCC1d5xgZRbgB8Q=; b=MZYaBRUaqTcZTSydnhfGjDuO8vaQH8LkSEGt9OtnvjYtuqTsnxBlm3Q3guqIyAYtf5 pxyhUV88HVIdlB8t0YyE4Y4i0FrFN6ubaSgYmxKdhYxkz+SEflEj/tyktrb8mfv2ozxF I6WCClgyadPKfiL5c0EBJ9wscfsNkPEgzezGo9uicLsCAE2arJ30E/g9SUojjV/sn52b 0peR9qYzy9oCFelkLnd0DzdpahN5YWA3cO6lTmcF8+6Q3tnA0ZFys/+ecpGWB1aHZGFU sKNJWQParBPL2GXsWtY/au7Xth8Ke6M7VLww1NQkmN9flBE7OGui9DLN69rRn3G6/C3d UDgw== X-Received: by 10.31.9.6 with SMTP id 6mr30186281vkj.25.1448415997210; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:46:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Hermes-2.local (mail.johnwiegley.com. [208.82.103.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 207sm16866498vkc.23.2015.11.24.17.46.36 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:46:36 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Hermes-2.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2079A49CF90F; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 17:46:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20151124210956.GC1840@acm.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 24 Nov 2015 21:09:56 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109213 Archived-At: >>>>> Alan Mackenzie writes: > I favour leaving the situation as it is. However, it is for John to decide. > If he comes round to the view that an error is too strong, I am willing to > turn it back into a warning. I would like it to appear in 25.1. I'm willing to err against caution this time. It would be stranger to me to have it go from a warning to an error within 25.x, which then means waiting until 26 for it to be an error. Now that it's in the release branch, how about we try out some large packages and see if it's actually a problem? Since I can't imagine anyone intentionally using this just to save themselves from typing "nil", I'd expect people would want to know that their setq is ill-formed. It might indicate a real problem. John