From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Filipp Gunbin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Casting as wide a net as possible Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:12:24 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87zixcud1t.fsf@fastmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450203172 21669 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2015 18:12:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Random832 , Emacs developers To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 15 19:12:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a8u5Y-0004Tk-Op for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:12:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38569 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8u5X-0000Oh-Tz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50564) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8u5T-0000OF-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8u5P-0001y0-Tf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:35 -0500 Original-Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:42941) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8u5P-0001xd-NQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:31 -0500 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF64120C96 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.fm; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=+ytqEDVXx//LCeBTC0t95XM7evU=; b=ljWAqb KEUFTI9aOBuLrQ5Y0ySvSZomRQvJerEZWrazLtvO3aIFWDipieq67GMEweLFd2O0 0WsRkYRBqh/dRhzl+dT/DtUx4huslCoZ5U0Jl+xor2XGn5Eu60WtqHebgAYLYxMr 7hXWPbG1y5YwcoIJ0r3LHKQ/0+MDi+Tq21dbg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=+ytqEDVXx//LCeB TC0t95XM7evU=; b=F6mSmIDsSzbRzs/yHl6h/XyO9ne1A11KnsiyzQLEfUJUPRO 26OCqeq6BdeUHHQuI9+A2dr2b8nZD0xaGS2aQ5mD1Qr7fPd+1om1Ri4tLQPopyEW IWmhtQMolCWNTe8iglUBP4TuYOqMLZsDro7xdnwra5lgmTPnMgSET8bNcUf4= X-Sasl-enc: ZA/lb+poQJfTpvw70Krx/jS1Z0tv9wUtxJKFXp6wgyUF 1450203148 Original-Received: from fgunbin.local (unknown [94.25.218.10]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D33CEC016DB; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:12:27 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:19:17 +0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.25 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196320 Archived-At: On 15/12/2015 00:19 +0600, Yuri Khan wrote: > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Random832 wrot= e: > >>>> English natives have worse problems with encodings. >>> >>> What do you mean? Just interesting. >> >> The definition of "worse" is subjective, but I think what he's >> referring to is the fact that someone might open a file in the >> wrong encoding, without noticing or caring that some accented >> word or punctuation symbol in some paragraph deep within the >> file looks wrong, add more content in the new encoding, save >> it... then you have a file which has a mixture of bytes in >> different encodings, which is very difficult to fix >> automatically. >> >> Whereas, if you open a file in Cyrillic (or, say, Japanese), you >> know immediately that it's in the wrong encoding and won't do >> any editing until the coding situation is fixed. > > That=E2=80=99s exactly what I meant. I see. However, this doesn't seem to affect English and American English languages, but rather European ones. Honestly, I always though that those languages do not have many encodings in use, probably I'm wrong. Filipp