From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:06:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86r3i39gm8.fsf@gmail.com> <4EE5D522-7CDE-4430-AC67-133DD628F843@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451754513 14148 80.91.229.3 (2 Jan 2016 17:08:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2016 17:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Random832 , Anders Lindgren , emacs-devel To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 02 18:08:25 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aFPfF-0003YY-4b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 18:08:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39071 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFPfE-00083c-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:08:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59406) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFPf9-00083T-Qn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFPf6-0007yA-Lu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:08:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]:35313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aFPf6-0007y6-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 12:08:16 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id ho8so1032267pac.2 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:08:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=/xZrR7Y827PUvur96wG10RoP/iy64kGuzSnUDPR93w8=; b=IlYvJTRLCnvMO1/jV3VbphY8ShBK28cErGg9gl+2E3u8azAZlf5vXrioShiQYDh25M yhMBcaVeg6AIP7S5YBhGmtR4pYChATEakldGvDF4aumJkZgkTzdOrw6ap8OEVuVIOlk8 7PuL+NtGDzI5TweCWLkRP+Th/MYJwhoKsuzLRu8QcEfwFI+hYa/Y9bJxurKnbYQSERk7 WRRBvZfYnCBXot2yKmpUPdyqIDFSrGnYVoq38tbNTEi1drFPZ0M6R2DNks8fE8M3ISYl 9+2q9FLpvGljxzB/Cq0VAlEypdSiUo59+eImkqY38x5l37q7Ecu3f1u2QWQGxfYPCUPd Qspg== X-Received: by 10.67.6.233 with SMTP id cx9mr54400314pad.54.1451754495857; Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:08:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ix2sm115079578pac.15.2016.01.02.09.08.13 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jan 2016 09:08:13 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4A00411FAC9AB; Sat, 2 Jan 2016 09:08:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Sat, 02 Jan 2016 16:18:43 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu , Anders Lindgren , Random832 , emacs-devel X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:197372 Archived-At: >>>>> YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu writes: > It is the NS port that has changed the default behavior in Emacs 23 from the > Carbon port in Emacs 22. The default behavior of the Mac port is the same as > the Carbon port, except that the alt/option keys now mapped to Emacs ALT > modifier for function keys such as arrow keys. I understand that historically your choice is appropriate, but we should have the two build flavors agree in 25.1, and we've had the "ns" behavior as the default since 23 now. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2