From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35507: Gnus mojibakifies UTF-8 text/x-patch attachments from Thunderbird Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 08:35:27 +0200 Message-ID: References: <44a26585-7980-378c-9262-a567ddd3e617@cs.ucla.edu> <865zqv3tc2.fsf@gmail.com> <83a7g6qds9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="268315"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35507@debbugs.gnu.org, andrewjmoreton@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 02 08:36:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hM5KF-0017cE-FJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 01 May 2019 23:35:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a7g6qds9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 01 May 2019 20:34:46 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:158616 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 01 May 2019 20:34:46 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Robert Pluim Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 >> 17:22:19 +0200 Cc: 35507@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> I think utf-8 is a good fallback if the message doesn=CA=BCt specify >> a charset. It=CA=BCs not going to produce any worse effects than >> what we have now. Eli> What considerations led you to that conclusion? If the message requires a charset, gnus might produce mojibake. Assuming utf-8 reduces the chance of that happening. It=CA=BCs true that in particular cases a different charset should be used, but in that case the existing assumption of ASCII is wrong as well. Robert