From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: .emacs-settings.el Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 21:18:29 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <60282.128.165.123.18.1189002441.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <87k5r350o5.fsf@jurta.org> <87veanixv5.fsf@cadilhac.name> <857in3bnav.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189131547 10118 80.91.229.12 (7 Sep 2007 02:19:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:19:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 04:19:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ITTQv-0003qG-9e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:18:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITTQt-0003d7-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITTQp-0003Z3-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:18:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ITTQn-0003Wh-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:18:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ITTQn-0003WH-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ITTQm-0001kr-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ITTQg-0005QW-Ei for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.14.57.89]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:18:42 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:18:42 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-14-57-89.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ldysV2G8TdJE0ulCFBrS4hsWtQI= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78058 Archived-At: On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:55:36 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think you've missed the difference between a hidden file anywhere in >> the directory tree and in a well-known location. We're talking about a >> {project,dir-locals}.el file that in /a, /a/b, /a/b/c, or /a/b/c/d could >> affect the settings for /a/b/c/d/* and every file under that. You'd >> have to do a `find` to get all the hidden files (or some equivalent >> shell game). That's what I mean by "suprising" and "hidden." Only a >> few applications put such hidden settings files outside the home >> directory, I can think only of the CVS .cvsignore and Subversion .svn >> directories at the moment. SM> There are many more: .arch-inventory, .arch-ids, .bzr, .hg. Some use _darcs SM> or _MTN but other than CVS (which was often considered as a mistake) most SM> distinguish their name either with a leading . or a leading _. Other than Eclipse, these are all VCS software packages, which is interesting. I've also seen hidden files used by MacOS for file metadata and I remember .xvpics which was used for caching thumbnails. Hidden files do tend to accumulate mostly under ~ though. As I said in another followup, however, I'm OK with making these override files hidden as long as messaging and C-h v/customize-variable report their usage. So please don't let my comments delay this very useful functionality from making an appearance. Ted