[BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[Jason Dunsmore]

After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes, I
expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following:

- Log timestamp when entering state
- Add note when entering state

This syntax appears to break the functionality, because it does neither.
The state is changed with no logging or note prompt.  Is this a bug?

I verified that the TODO(t@/!) syntax does work as indicated in the
manual.

- Add note when entering state
- Log timestamp when entering state
- Log timestamp when exiting state

This is with the latest org-mode (commit a4273cbe0e0) and Emacs 23.2.1.

Thanks,
Jason

Re: [BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[Giovanni Ridolfi]

Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> writes:

Hi, _Jason, 

> After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes,
> I  expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following: 
>
> - Log timestamp when entering state
> - Add note when entering state

Well the  TODO(t@!) syntax seems not to be allowed.

It is your expectation, I'd say a feature request ;-)

cheers,
Giovanni

>
> This syntax appears to break the functionality, because it does neither.
> The state is changed with no logging or note prompt.  Is this a bug?
>
> I verified that the TODO(t@/!) syntax does work as indicated in the
> manual.
>
> - Add note when entering state
> - Log timestamp when entering state
> - Log timestamp when exiting state

Re: [BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[Jason Dunsmore]

Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> writes:

> Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi, _Jason, 
>
>> After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes,
>> I  expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following: 
>>
>> - Log timestamp when entering state
>> - Add note when entering state
>
> Well the  TODO(t@!) syntax seems not to be allowed.
>
> It is your expectation, I'd say a feature request ;-)

I thought it was a bug because each of the special characters is
described in the manual as being an individual feature and it isn't
documented that only certain combinations of features work together.

Re: [BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[suvayu ali]

Hi Jason,

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:56, Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> wrote:
> After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes, I
> expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following:
>
> - Log timestamp when entering state
> - Add note when entering state
>
> This syntax appears to break the functionality, because it does neither.
> The state is changed with no logging or note prompt.  Is this a bug?
>
> I verified that the TODO(t@/!) syntax does work as indicated in the
> manual.
>
> - Add note when entering state
> - Log timestamp when entering state
> - Log timestamp when exiting state
>
> This is with the latest org-mode (commit a4273cbe0e0) and Emacs 23.2.1.
>

I believe the above should be:

- Add note _with timestamp_ when entering state
- Log timestamp when exiting state

That said, you can simply hit C-c C-c to simply log the timestamp
without a note. In other words, '@' is equivalent to '!' + note, so just
enter a blank note. :)

> Thanks,
> Jason
>

HTH

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

[PATCH] Documentation for "Tracking TODO state changes"

[Jason Dunsmore]

suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Jason,
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 15:56, Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes, I
>> expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following:
>>
>> - Log timestamp when entering state
>> - Add note when entering state
>>
>> This syntax appears to break the functionality, because it does neither.
>> The state is changed with no logging or note prompt.  Is this a bug?
>>
>> I verified that the TODO(t@/!) syntax does work as indicated in the
>> manual.
>>
>> - Add note when entering state
>> - Log timestamp when entering state
>> - Log timestamp when exiting state
>>
>> This is with the latest org-mode (commit a4273cbe0e0) and Emacs 23.2.1.
>>
>
> I believe the above should be:
>
> - Add note _with timestamp_ when entering state
> - Log timestamp when exiting state
>
> That said, you can simply hit C-c C-c to simply log the timestamp
> without a note. In other words, '@' is equivalent to '!' + note, so just
> enter a blank note. :)

Ah, I understand now.  Thanks for the explanation.  Here's a patch to to
the documentation:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index 4a547d0..e1167eb 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -4032,14 +4032,18 @@ also overrule the setting of this variable for a
subtree
 
 Since it is normally too much to record a note for every state,
 Org-mode
 expects configuration on a per-keyword basis for this.  This is
 achieved by
-adding special markers @samp{!} (for a timestamp) and @samp{@@} (for a
 note)
-in parentheses after each keyword.  For example, with the setting
+adding special markers @samp{!} (for a timestamp) or @samp{@@} (for a
 note
+with timestamp) in parentheses after each keyword.  For example, with
 the
+setting
 
 @lisp
 (setq org-todo-keywords
   '((sequence "TODO(t)" "WAIT(w@@/!)" "|" "DONE(d!)" "CANCELED(c@@)")))
 @end lisp
 
+To record a timestamp without a note for TODO keywords configured with
+@samp{@@}, just type @kbd{C-c C-c} to enter a blank note when prompted.
+
 @noindent
 @vindex org-log-done
 you not only define global TODO keywords and fast access keys, but also
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Re: [PATCH] Documentation for "Tracking TODO state changes"

[Bernt Hansen]

Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> writes:

> suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> That said, you can simply hit C-c C-c to simply log the timestamp
>> without a note. In other words, '@' is equivalent to '!' + note, so just
>> enter a blank note. :)
>
> Ah, I understand now.  Thanks for the explanation.  Here's a patch to to
> the documentation:
>

Thanks Jason,

The patch looks good to me.

Regards,
Bernt

Re: [BUG] Unable to use TODO(t@!) to track TODO state changes

[Dave Abrahams]

on Wed Nov 09 2011, Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> Giovanni Ridolfi <giovanni.ridolfi@yahoo.it> writes:
>
>> Jason Dunsmore <jasondunsmore@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> Hi, _Jason, 
>>
>>> After reading http://orgmode.org/org.html#Tracking-TODO-state-changes,
>>> I  expected the "@!" TODO syntax, eg. TODO(t@!), to do the following: 
>>>
>>> - Log timestamp when entering state
>>> - Add note when entering state
>>
>> Well the  TODO(t@!) syntax seems not to be allowed.
>>
>> It is your expectation, I'd say a feature request ;-)
>
> I thought it was a bug because each of the special characters is
> described in the manual as being an individual feature and it isn't
> documented that only certain combinations of features work together.

There's definitely a bug; either in the manual or code (or both ;->).

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com