From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Helmut Eller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package initialization Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:58:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87twt1dmxu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437299965 24804 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 09:59:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , emacs-devel To: Artur Malabarba Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 11:59:20 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlNP-000404-EG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:59:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlNO-0006z7-TA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:59:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlNB-0006yV-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:59:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlN8-0002ea-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22c.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c]:37431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlN8-0002eW-G6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 05:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: by wibud3 with SMTP id ud3so73548552wib.0 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:59:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ph4dyEvLNbhQdRbbiE1c0J/qC+6rHgt+1gDXzenNGUk=; b=VvlXq3ut7aGaroXylh31fBFybJ7s87r03lM158pP7DtKyYqUnhwGnEh0pbQiPUHerK pFu+8mn2Kmwp4IK3wx6ZHUrRmw3BBlhWKfKdiO4UXqKfUkHByb9b0MM+bioAIFynT31y XqA2KFHcSLvdH5VjGCPcHADEB8WAKuz6qrKqe35Jt0NY1z1tDz5Sn4e2+XF3WCzfLF73 /XHcSW94kvSMm2Clr4f1PMkUepygGFdN7TcYZ+fOYb12xDOZtkToSO9g+HQ70NsjSWkf 7WYWsS4DnbTrAUVPnNEuZz6ommgPxFqP6DFbM1oXHSA7yzsxwtS7o0EoZqWSdJib40B6 etNw== X-Received: by 10.181.27.131 with SMTP id jg3mr10931929wid.89.1437299941775; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ix ([212.46.170.156]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b13sm6324044wic.15.2015.07.19.02.59.00 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Jul 2015 02:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from helmut by ix with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlN5-0000c8-NT; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:58:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Artur Malabarba's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:10:57 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187973 Archived-At: On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Artur Malabarba wrote: >> lisp-mode-hook.=C2=A0 In general, lazy initialization would also not work >> well if those autoloaded commands should be bound to keys because before >> the first invocation the keys would not be bound. > > If the user wants to bind an autoloaded command to a key, they can do that > just fine. How without adding something to .emacs? Helmut