From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: using use-package Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 02:07:07 -0700 Organization: New Artisans LLC Message-ID: References: <67cb463e-41f6-4f37-91ee-15d0fdb5ba9f@googlegroups.com> <20150812180621.32265.2E673ABE@ahiker.mooo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1439457472 15565 80.91.229.3 (13 Aug 2015 09:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 09:17:52 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 13 11:17:44 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodq-0006x1-C3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:17:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodp-0000nj-Kh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:17:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43894) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodg-0000mW-6U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:17:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodc-0004Iy-TF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:17:32 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:48680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodc-0004FZ-MC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 05:17:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPodZ-0006io-0E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:17:25 +0200 Original-Received: from 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net ([76.234.68.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:17:24 +0200 Original-Received: from johnw by 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:17:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fmqq8LoGd0SEHaYlvCGSfO1zmX8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106525 Archived-At: >>>>> Stefan Monnier writes: > Hence use-package partly overlaps with ELPA, and in those parts that > overlaps, the work is done differently: in ELPA the work is done by the > packager, whereas in use-package the work is done by the end-user (since > there's no packager doing that work for him). I'd say this is a perfectly accurate characterization. And if core Emacs does not want to detract from the success of ELPA, I can understand that too. John