From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Support for bringing package change logs to the user's attention Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 13:34:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527539591 32562 195.159.176.226 (28 May 2018 20:33:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 May 2018 20:33:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (darwin) Cc: chrisdone@googlemail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Done Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 28 22:33:06 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOpE-0008LD-KI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 22:33:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57712 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOrL-0007G6-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:35:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60247) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOqg-0007Fz-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOqf-0001Qm-1L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45866) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOqb-0001Mh-8F; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]:43379) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fNOqb-0000OV-08; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:29 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C75421A99; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:28 -0400 X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 46C76E40A3; Mon, 28 May 2018 16:34:28 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Christopher Done's message of "Fri, 25 May 2018 12:47:49 +0100") Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Done , emacs-devel@gnu.org, chrisdone@googlemail.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225785 Archived-At: >>>>> "CD" == Christopher Done writes: CD> I would like that there be explicit support for: CD> A. When I load an Emacs package that is newer than last time, that CD> Emacs automatically brings up to my attention a buffer with "what's new" CD> in the package. CD> B. Once I've acknowledged by a button or key press that I've really read CD> the changes, then I never see the buffer again unless I explicitly ask to CD> see it again. I would suggest rather than this: for those who haven't opted out, Emacs would present a y/n prompt saying 'There have been new features added to your Emacs environment, would you like to hear about them?', and then list them by package order in a buffer that allows further browsing where interested. Because some of us using many packages, and update them in bulk using a package manager, there can be days where I might have 50 updates. If each package wanted to present me with its NEWS and await a keypress, it could take several minutes to work through it all. This is how some Nix packages do it: In the update log they note there is "news to read", and then offer the command to read it, but without any request for acknowledgment. We could perhaps add a similar message into the *scratch* buffer on the splash screen on startup, rather than a y/n prompt. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2