From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Xu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: records-mode ? Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:25:20 +0900 Organization: the Church of Emacs Message-ID: References: <200802190200.m1J202tc009788@localhost.localdomain> <200802190752.m1J7qsdN012460@localhost.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1203434768 10428 80.91.229.12 (19 Feb 2008 15:26:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:26:08 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 19 16:26:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JRUMZ-0008Kw-JW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:26:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRUM4-0001Sv-OP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:26:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRULn-0001Sm-25 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JRULh-0001SP-Im for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JRULh-0001SM-CX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:37 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JRULh-00042z-2B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:25:37 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JRULZ-0006Or-CU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:25:29 +0000 Original-Received: from kd125052252076.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp ([125.52.252.76]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:25:29 +0000 Original-Received: from william.xwl by kd125052252076.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:25:29 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 91 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: kd125052252076.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t7qwv7JqFPmJToNqtuP3V4KLJ7A= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:51681 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > Xavier Maillard writes: > > > After having tried Org Mode, Muse, Howm (a little) they are > > really good package but too feature full and none offer a good > > indexing system to retrieve informations quickly and easily > > (except by adding links here and there). > > How does `outline-mode' feel? I use it for keeping various notes. > > Does it have something like an index of notes to quickly know > where to retrieve a note/information ? It has an index, like an index of a book, a pdf document. You can toggle index mode or full display mode, hide/display some specific section. Give an example, ,----[ show all ] | * this month | | ** today | | Nice day. | | ** tomorrow | | Also nice day. | | * next month `---- ,----[ index ] | * this month.. | ** today.. | ** tomorrow.. | * next month.. `---- ,----[ show only today ] | * this month.. | ** today | | Nice day. | | ** tomorrow.. | * next month.. `---- The above should give you a feel of it. > This is a major > requirement for me. In records-mode, pressing C-c C-j, I have an > index buffer which shows a list of keywords and the respective > notes entries (There is something close to this in notes-mode). index buffer? So there are multiple buffers? Oh, outline has only one. > As Bastien said, maybe I am misusing Org. Maybe Org is really > what I want but concentrating only on the note taking aspect and > not using planning/todo handling. planning/todo thing also keeps me away. I used to try to learn planner.el(part of Muse now?), which turned out rather too complicated to me. This experience also makes me dare not try org mode yet. > As far as I remember, org-mode and remember has turned out very > good combination by the past _but_, I always feel lost when it > comes to « searching » informations -ie. I do not like the search > process. > > What I need, if I go back to Org, is a setup like this: > > #1. One note page per day classified ala notes-mode (and I also > want to have the possibility to have notes not related to dates > -ie. independant notes (by, say, subject) > #2. An index of all my note entries (with quick search on > keywords, tags, etc.) > #3. I want to be able to narrow on a note entry (this is easy in > every mode I have tried) > #4. navigation facilities to previous/next day (as is done by > records-mode and notes-mode). This is an important point for > my job position. > > Free form notes taking is, off course, a _must have_ for me. I think outline supports all above, except that I don't understand the keywords, tags thing in #2. Outline mode probably has no such thing. -- William