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[76.234.69.149]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 19sm12703756pfk.58.2016.09.23.09.32.09 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0EDA92719D1D; Fri, 23 Sep 2016 09:32:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871t0apsxm.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Fri, 23 Sep 2016 15:55:01 +0100") Mail-Followup-To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord), Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.66 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207739 Archived-At: >>>>> "PL" == Phillip Lord writes: >> I hadn't thought of package.el and core packages. What would the value be? PL> 1) Neatness -- package.el format puts all the files that provide one PL> piece of functionality in one place. Are you suggesting a reorganization of the source code under lisp/? PL> 2) Familiarity -- most Emacs-lisp developers are familiar with package.el PL> format. Tools like Cask and elpakit work with it. Why would anyone be rebuilding core libraries? Or are you proposing this for the Emacs developers? PL> 3) Sharing -- if they are in the same format, packages can easily be kept PL> on ELPA and in core, and there is a clean migration path. This part I understand, as applying to the concept of "core ELPA" (which, once I have some time next week, I will continue to discuss in our other thread). -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2