From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "John Wiegley" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Elisp containers Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:54:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536342754 8828 195.159.176.226 (7 Sep 2018 17:52:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 17:52:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.91 (darwin) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 07 19:52:30 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKvl-0002C6-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 19:52:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKxr-0008O5-Rp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKxk-0008ME-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKxf-0000aa-80 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59006) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKxd-0000Zh-UT; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:27 -0400 Original-Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.227]:55987) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fyKxd-0005Jl-RL; Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:25 -0400 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664921E50; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 13:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 07 Sep 2018 13:54:25 -0400 X-ME-Proxy: X-ME-Sender: Original-Received: from localhost (76-234-69-149.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net [76.234.69.149]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 80EF810294; Fri, 7 Sep 2018 13:54:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 07 Sep 2018 10:38:18 -0400") Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229435 Archived-At: >>>>> "SM" == Stefan Monnier writes: SM> This would be like running Elisp in a separate process, except that it's SM> not a separate process, so communication between two containers can be SM> very efficient (e.g. you can send a buffer from one container to the other SM> as efficiently as you can send an integer). So the motivation is just efficiency? I think it costs <50ms to spawn an Emacs child process using async.el to load and query something in it. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2