From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: [offtopic] Re: Ctrl-[ ? Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2019 22:06:29 +1000 Message-ID: References: <08AC8151-5911-40FA-8B20-818B839D00AB@traduction-libre.org> <86h892nk2g.fsf@zoho.eu> <9379C01B-80E3-49DD-B830-46CED773DC2C@traduction-libre.org> <83lfydrkde.fsf@gnu.org> <874l51q0s4.fsf@telefonica.net> <83ef45rdij.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhmto6fa.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190607163017.GA32029@tuxteam.de> <96B116FC-8007-4C42-9AE6-585530D0C76E@comcast.net> <87muisor2h.fsf@telefonica.net> <63F9D100-CD25-445B-8184-93A25DB0FC38@comcast.net> <874l4zoiz6.fsf@telefonica.net> <8A953A06-0B89-4026-8801-602C0D8B2CA1@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="2157"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (darwin) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 14 14:15:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl7E-0000Rs-IJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:15:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50828 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl7D-00079d-Bc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51309) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl0N-00020v-Ux for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl0K-0002Jm-98 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=38926 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl0J-0002BP-JT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 08:08:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hbl0E-000zXh-4Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jun 2019 14:08:18 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:mALKo/OuDh1e7FCugmwvJHtmliI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120948 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > There are always 3 entities at play here: > > ASCII-control | GUI key | GUI control-modified-key > --------------------------------------------------- > TAB | tab | control i > ESC | escape | control [ > RET | return | control m > LF | linefeed | control j > ... The fingering for column-3 with thumb over space is natural and comfy. Using the keyboard on the Lenovo Thinkpad A485 as reference and right shifting the right palm such that the thumb is over each of the three modifier keys with fingerings also right shifting has potential for smooth ergonomical transition from right handed mouse to keying combinations with one hand on the right side of the keyboard. -- © 2019 Van L gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 "you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out" - Donald J. Trump