From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: short *Shell Command Output* and mouse "bait and switch" Date: 03 May 2002 09:06:50 +0800 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: jidanni@yam.com.tw NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020420980 3163 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2002 10:16:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173a6t-0000ot-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 12:16:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173Zfi-0002iy-00; Fri, 03 May 2002 05:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailbox.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.54] helo=mailbox2.ucsd.edu) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173Zdl-0002YN-00 for ; Fri, 03 May 2002 05:46:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de (mail.fu-berlin.de [160.45.11.165]) by mailbox2.ucsd.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g439kBbf028540 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:46:11 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Fri, 3 May 2002 11:46:08 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 61-227-44-136.hinet-ip.hinet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 19 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 61-227-44-136.hinet-ip.hinet.net (61.227.44.136) X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1020419168 14233341 61.227.44.136 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: localhost.localdomain!nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:1127 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:1127 >> Maybe this cruel item has been already fixed. >> I do a M-! shell command and wish to cut and paste from the result. I >> press to click and ha ha, it ran away :-( Eli> It didn't run away, you can still see it with "C-x b". But don't you also feel like a bait and switch victim when you get the mouse in place, lower your finger, and "wham! ha ha fooled you!". Is this a peek at the emacs attitude of the future? You must admit that it is a bug to make things disappear when the user is about to cut and paste them. What other software acts this way? ! s e q SPC 1 SPC 1 SPC 5 now try to copy say, the "3" with your mouse. Is all the flashing and error messages not a bug? Why not just let the user copy what he sees? -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780