From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sean O'Rourke" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wctziwv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <87lkb1z0vg.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <858x71w5f5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190315561 16546 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 19:12:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 20 21:12:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYRS2-0001QJ-So for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:12:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYRS0-0000rm-KS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYRRx-0000qS-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYRRx-0000pE-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYRRw-0000p6-Uj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound1.ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.205]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IYRRr-00047q-So; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.ucsd.edu (smtp.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.49]) by outbound1.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8KJCN3B030591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:12:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=2007001; d=ucsd.edu; c=simple; q=dns; b=ZVkN7lIUI86Rh59U8ma3/hdUd2IVJapfPxJ3HLw2RtJso7o2A89DfXGPtctzBZrWa JLoESzOYZdKGP66lDjVRA== Original-Received: from 0-16-cb-b9-d7-be.dynamic.ucsd.edu (0-16-cb-b9-d7-be.dynamic.ucsd.edu [128.54.54.73]) by smtp.ucsd.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8KJCLwc072963; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:12:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <858x71w5f5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Thu\, 20 Sep 2007 20\:35\:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.0 (darwin) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79400 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Manoj Srivastava writes: > >> What I saw was a splash screen -- but it came with a nice >> _dismiss_ button, and even a checkbox that said "don't show this >> again". This is not much of an annoyance -- since it only ever appears >> once, > > Per session. I think Manoj's suggestion is to have a "never show me this again" checkbox on the splash screen, UNchecked by default. The user can press "ok" to dismiss the screen until next time, or check the box then press "ok" to disable it permanently. If the user later wants to see the screen again, s/he can re-enable it. Many programs (e.g. Firefox, iTunes) seem to be adopting this convention, and I think it works well: When moving to a new machine, I am annoyed at most once by the warning dialogs I normally disable. Novice users seem not to check the boxes, and continue to see all the warnings. This method is simple, ensures that novices see the message, minimally interferes with "emacs FILENAME" invocation by experts, and is controlled by an explicit user action. What's not to like? /s