Org-mode reinvented?

Org-mode reinvented?

[Marcin Borkowski]

Hi all,

I've just stumbled over this: https://gingkoapp.com/ .  From a cursory
glance it seems like a web-based, proprietary, simplified version of
Org-mode for non-geeks.  Not that I'm inclined to try it out - I've got
Org - but maybe someone would find it interesting/inspiring.

Disclosure: I am not related to the author or the company who produces
that app.  I'm just curious if anyone has seen this, and whether some
features might be an inspiration for e.g. new Org-mode features/modules.
For instance, they say in the "quick intro" that they have /templates/
for common things, like writing screenplays.  That /might/ (or might
not) be an interesting thing to implement in Org-mode.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University

Re: Org-mode reinvented?

[John Kitchin]

Interesting. One day I imagine something like this, or sharelatex exists
for collaborating on org-files with people who don't like Emacs...

Marcin Borkowski writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just stumbled over this: https://gingkoapp.com/ .  From a cursory
> glance it seems like a web-based, proprietary, simplified version of
> Org-mode for non-geeks.  Not that I'm inclined to try it out - I've got
> Org - but maybe someone would find it interesting/inspiring.
>
> Disclosure: I am not related to the author or the company who produces
> that app.  I'm just curious if anyone has seen this, and whether some
> features might be an inspiration for e.g. new Org-mode features/modules.
> For instance, they say in the "quick intro" that they have /templates/
> for common things, like writing screenplays.  That /might/ (or might
> not) be an interesting thing to implement in Org-mode.
>
> Best,

--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
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Re: Org-mode reinvented?

[Ken Mankoff]

On 2015-10-25 at 07:12, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Interesting. One day I imagine something like this, or sharelatex
> exists for collaborating on org-files with people who don't like
> Emacs...

One can hope, but unfortunately it seems Markdown is the default implementation for people supporting a simple markup language.

  -k.

Re: Org-mode reinvented?

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2015-10-25, at 16:55, Ken Mankoff <mankoff@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-25 at 07:12, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> Interesting. One day I imagine something like this, or sharelatex
>> exists for collaborating on org-files with people who don't like
>> Emacs...
>
> One can hope, but unfortunately it seems Markdown is the default implementation for people supporting a simple markup language.

Yes.  Sometimes I wish Org-mode used Markdown by default.  Then, I start
to think "yes, fine, but /which/ Markdown?", and I feel better;-).

(The problem with Markdown seems to be that there is no "official"
version.  Also, if Org-mode were tied to some external standard, Org's
own development - like in "adding new features" - would become
problematic.)

>   -k.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University

Re: Org-mode reinvented?

[Aldric Giacomoni]

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As someone who came to emacs and org-mode after using Markdown on Github
for quite a while as "the default readme format", it's a consolation to
find that Github supports "pretty" formatting of org-mode:
https://gist.github.com/Trevoke/667a02bfbe464c1b9011

Org-mode is significantly more powerful and nicer than markdown. I think
that is part of its problem. Look at Daniel's TODO list on the
implementation of org-mode syntax for Sublime Text:
https://github.com/danielmagnussons/orgmode/blob/master/messages/install.org#features

Another way of looking at it is that markdown is just a subset of org-mode
anyway... :)

On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:17 PM Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:

>
> On 2015-10-25, at 16:55, Ken Mankoff <mankoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2015-10-25 at 07:12, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> >> Interesting. One day I imagine something like this, or sharelatex
> >> exists for collaborating on org-files with people who don't like
> >> Emacs...
> >
> > One can hope, but unfortunately it seems Markdown is the default
> implementation for people supporting a simple markup language.
>
> Yes.  Sometimes I wish Org-mode used Markdown by default.  Then, I start
> to think "yes, fine, but /which/ Markdown?", and I feel better;-).
>
> (The problem with Markdown seems to be that there is no "official"
> version.  Also, if Org-mode were tied to some external standard, Org's
> own development - like in "adding new features" - would become
> problematic.)
>
> >   -k.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Adam Mickiewicz University
>
>

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