From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com>
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: "concurrency" branch updated
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:01:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2k2pwksvp.fsf@RFC1918.na.baesystems.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8qs158d.fsf@tromey.com> (Tom Tromey's message of "Thu, 05 Nov 2015 14:55:14 -0700")
>>>>> Tom Tromey <tom@tromey.com> writes:
> I don't understand what stacking backtraces is.
When a signal occurs while you're already looking at a backtrace.
> Messaging is already on the branch; or rather, locks and condition variables
> are on the branch, and it's simple to build thread-safe pipes and queues and
> whatnot using those.
I definitely need to examine your previous work before saying more. :)
John> What I want most is to make deadlocks and race conditions
John> naturally hard to write -- if not impossible. The rise of
John> Heisenbugs could make our job as maintainers much more
John> difficult. All the worst bugs in my programming career were
John> related to preemptive threading in some way.
> Race-free-ness will not come from this branch. It takes a traditional
> threads-and-locks approach.
This is definitely an area for further discussion; though that shouldn't stop
us from continuing to think about the cooperative approach.
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-05 22:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-01 6:19 "concurrency" branch updated Ken Raeburn
2015-11-02 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:23 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-02 20:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 21:57 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-03 3:58 ` Elias Mårtenson
2015-11-03 9:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-03 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 9:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-03 11:50 ` other "concurrency" approaches Nic Ferrier
2015-11-03 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 17:16 ` Nic Ferrier
2015-11-03 17:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 22:28 ` Nic Ferrier
2015-11-04 3:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 15:14 ` "concurrency" branch updated Filipp Gunbin
2015-11-03 15:35 ` Michael Albinus
2015-11-03 16:38 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2015-11-03 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 9:20 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 19:48 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 20:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05 5:16 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-04 23:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-05 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05 6:29 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-11-05 13:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 14:17 ` David Kastrup
2015-11-05 15:07 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-05 21:55 ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-05 22:01 ` John Wiegley [this message]
2015-11-05 22:46 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-06 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-05 21:49 ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-05 21:46 ` Tom Tromey
2015-11-06 7:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-06 14:58 ` Tom Tromey
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