From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Document that symbol prefix "my-" (or other) should be left for users Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:32:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87mvtekydf.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87egeqkwj2.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87mvtbinc3.fsf@gnu.org> <18664dc1-aedb-4300-ad9d-d5bc9c363bc5@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450211600 29000 80.91.229.3 (15 Dec 2015 20:33:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Teemu Likonen , Emacs developers , John Yates To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 15 21:33:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a8wHV-0006XI-PX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:33:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39048 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8wHV-0006Lq-AC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:33:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8wHI-0006Ke-Tp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:32:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8wHF-0004cU-Jl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:32:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229]:33745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8wHF-0004cQ-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:32:53 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x229.google.com with SMTP id ur14so10526082pab.0 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:32:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:mail-followup-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=xAX2HIyZ/z3+kIh7cHIzQ5REWbOZyhyQ5WHle2hZcjY=; b=x66yZ6J7oo0fdENeMs3XM/lrm06fzJqfOsBGlKdkH0UYz4imlseyZ8LkZ1eIEGwpCd 2Vnv+rOaiNlsyFxxx7l6xREK3AvDT0a3ZhMibFwe9KkyY7RN6jfnan/9eqf2CB+QNx3W 6nvZ3+TErFsig2GPLmbael8dymVd0U/Fnkfu5pUOqaN2MCcffoRy6oz7VNt9RaG65Rb1 H5OD5GFZwxIVyeNmfO6znib/p54AGhNCKDolbJ8qngCADBrd2Yi6NWTqKQXcIlA3/Wl0 u0VHrwH5vfdBfMy3FQr9YsMX6niAN5keuD+pZFI8b/qnsZVe2LODkH3yF985RDSb3bs/ 7dXw== X-Received: by 10.66.220.196 with SMTP id py4mr35886595pac.135.1450211572938; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:32:52 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xr8sm4109135pab.26.2015.12.15.12.32.52 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:32:52 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6FC131174D41B; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 12:32:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <18664dc1-aedb-4300-ad9d-d5bc9c363bc5@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:01:18 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Drew Adams , John Yates , Teemu Likonen , Emacs developers X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196331 Archived-At: >>>>> Drew Adams writes: > Again, why? Why reserve any prefix for users? We haven't yet yet seen a > reason. (This is quite different from key-binding prefixes, IMO.) Drew has a point. How about we wait until there's some instance of the problem in the wild that needs us to document such a convention? There's been a lot of time for this to become an issue, and it hasn't yet. Even then, it would only ever be a convention: we can't stop authors from naming their symbols however they want -- except for those that are proposed to Emacs or ELPA, where a "my-" prefix would already raise the necessary eyebrows. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2