From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22785: 24.5; comint/shell modes should be merged with term mode Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:20:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: <56CCC20A.4090804@bothner.com> <87si0ji1dd.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <56CCCE13.9010702@bothner.com> Reply-To: John Wiegley NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456338143 20976 80.91.229.3 (24 Feb 2016 18:22:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22785@debbugs.gnu.org, Ingo Lohmar To: Per Bothner Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 24 19:22:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4h-0006J6-6Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:22:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37588 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4g-0001M4-Ki for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:22:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4b-0001Lr-TM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:22:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4Y-0000HH-Nj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4Y-0000HB-J5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4Y-0002rO-F7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: John Wiegley Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22785 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22785-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22785.145633811210977 (code B ref 22785); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22785) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 18:21:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44144 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4N-0002qz-WB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:21:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-f179.google.com ([209.85.192.179]:36744) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYe4M-0002ql-3y for 22785@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:21:50 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-f179.google.com with SMTP id e127so17114809pfe.3 for <22785@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id:references :user-agent:reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=V0CYbOFFw3e2ZIHpZKtpCOr4OQhvAvOgSio5M2HnWRU=; b=eqilSuNCQFsDm4cLuStESD01iv2Y3DMx5hJSOgGAatDiMtAJqlXCPgXCtu1byuWste Q9VgWoQ0BTlMXepUgf2jpbB32fiKMl7KiYYk0z1/GA0t8bp7Tc0B5Oi2htJIDXwWzjtJ 4cROZZpK+DYaDMtsAFwnZyk/vAOsW7vuBOrEATpg1Yk/Ny8HRX2eO6fKjRth4FTKZzKf MhaqdC/YHtt9ollqJlJmbDczfz32F1GfurBg/gV2mJDXdyB80OtcMO7l11sexFzhqARl ZRx9JogOk5TQysBul4Y/qxWwvg1TRl6z09GyfObhsY2lRiVdE55YBK92PtUtpTVOYLnH 9qPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :references:user-agent:reply-to:mime-version:content-type; bh=V0CYbOFFw3e2ZIHpZKtpCOr4OQhvAvOgSio5M2HnWRU=; b=PS5zbbIZzOvnUzBkr7IEJBWC1wSSHXZBDXzorvoI8KetFHWwmqN9BLhDcM61ENtVQG ihfVt/pBNVYPqkwgIYwqKr76fjepVlxWOtkbmlezPI5tiHBXtg7uuHRumMt7lUsWTJPr Lq1MK+982WQGN/vW98dnpGvHnNnV+CUf7fuo+6TEieDmilq/zLyeoq93cbJdujTp6dnR jc8HadUAuGst5GNSbZp7+J+j/8TapkIE5QvRB7ikmpQiyIF93tL8VSVMSIyDOjFhPi+j bU6iRdACsjuKpJiYBencQkNUNxvf3aVc2Ic6ktMGjZAmv1OAG0T5Q7tGTF15ieyiNtVm blDw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSLvFwQ64B11gxlVpLrVYqaXYSmc5izD2Y8Sh817HXzLptOFtObI61sqWftz7mG/A== X-Received: by 10.98.80.91 with SMTP id e88mr56320521pfb.62.1456338104501; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:44 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Vulcan.local (76-234-68-79.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net. [76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w9sm6626374pfa.21.2016.02.24.10.21.43 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C3D9513173783; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:21:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56CCCE13.9010702@bothner.com> (Per Bothner's message of "Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:24:35 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (darwin) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:113735 Archived-At: >>>>> Per Bothner writes: > To clarify: The goal is to essentially merge term.el and comint.el. > Comint.el might still exist, but only as a think veneer on term.el. shell > might or might not existing as a separate mode, but it would at most be a > thin veneer on top of term mode. I'm not sure what to think about this. Term is a bit of a complex beast, it is true, and it has far fewer users than comint. What is the motivation exactly? Would any mode other than shell interaction benefit from this merge? -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2