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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: joostkremers@fastmail.fm, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org,
	phillip.lord@russet.org.uk
Subject: Re: Visit New File menu item
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:02:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2k2l6paz5.fsf@newartisans.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k2l6fjq0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:03:51 +0200")

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>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> It's okay to revisit that decision, but such changes should not be done
> during a pretest, no matter how simple they look: you never know what
> baggage they could bring with them, and pretest must not change behavior,
> unless required to fix a bug.

> Also, such changes should be discussed more thoroughly, waiting for
> interested parties to chime in. E.g., one problem with "New File" is that we
> don't actually enforce the "new" part -- you can visit an existing file via
> that menu item. Not sure how important this nit is, but OTOH that single
> word "Visit" is also hardly so very important that we should rush making the
> change overnight.

You make excellent points, Eli.

Phillip, I'm sorry to give you the go ahead and then turn it around, but I
can't ignore Eli's wise counsel on this point.

Can one of you please revert this for emacs-25? (I'm traveling at the moment).
After, let's discuss which menu options we might want to change and why, so
that others have more of a chance to chime in. Although there was a mini-
consensus on "New File", maybe we didn't give it enough time.

Thank you,
-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-13 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-11 16:58 Visit New File menu item Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 17:02 ` Joost Kremers
2016-03-11 21:30   ` John Wiegley
2016-03-11 21:36     ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-11 21:50     ` Drew Adams
2016-03-11 22:18       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 22:16     ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-11 22:22       ` Mathias Dahl
2016-03-12  6:59       ` Yuri Khan
2016-03-12 19:26     ` Richard Stallman
2016-03-12 21:23       ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 21:37         ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-12 21:41           ` John Wiegley
2016-03-12 23:35             ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13  3:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13  3:56               ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13  4:00                 ` John Wiegley
2016-03-13 16:03                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 17:02                     ` John Wiegley [this message]
2016-03-13 19:56                       ` Phillip Lord
2016-03-13 20:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-13 20:38                         ` Nicolas Semrau
2016-03-13  3:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-11 22:22 ` Nicolas Semrau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-03-13 23:37 Angelo Graziosi
2016-03-14  0:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-03-14  3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii

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