From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org Mode version to be bundled with Emacs 25? 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[76.234.68.79]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o185sm3371730oif.26.2016.07.18.10.57.49 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:57:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: "John Wiegley" Original-Received: by Vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D19721A2520C; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83mvle26ea.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:38:37 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.95 (darwin) Mail-Followup-To: Eli Zaretskii , rswgnu@gmail.com, nljlistbox2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205820 Archived-At: >>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: EZ> If Org is as important as people said in the recent discussion (and I EZ> believe it is indeed that important), then we will never want it to move EZ> out of core, so that Emacs always comes with Org bundled. I would like to go into 'tarball ELPA': That section of ELPA which is always bundled with each release, but which core packages may not depend on. This different from 'core ELPA' which both goes into the release tarball, AND core packages may depend on them (i.e., a mechanism exists to copy from ELPA into core at suitable times). All of which is distinguished from 'package ELPA', which people would install from as they do now, using M-x package-install. -- John Wiegley GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F http://newartisans.com 60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2